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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions
Posted by: Michael Good
Date/Time: 25/11/24 08:41:00

https://www.hammersmithsociety.org.uk/rivercourt-road-a-new-two-way-ltn/

Last year, we were contacted by residents of Rivercourt Road concerned about the increased traffic they said they were experiencing. Rivercourt is the road formerly running one-way towards King Street from the Great West Road as shown adjacent, with its twin – Weltje Road – running one-way towards the A4.

On Thursday, Rivercourt road became a trial two-way LTN with non-residents, Blue Badge holders, and businesses required to get a permit or be fined by ANPR cameras at the A4 junction. On the same day, Rosamund Adoo-KD (Ella’s mother) described LTN’s as the worst thing ever . Regardless of the intent, we question whether this is the right solution.

These roads are effective ways to get to and from the A4 and King Street without going all the way to Hogarth Roundabout or adding to Hammersmith Broadway congestion and emissions, and are therefore important for a significant number of residents, non-residents, schools, visitors and businesses alike – plus the wider environment – hence our interest.

The council have not published audited statistics, though claim ‘4000 motorists’ a day which in itself implies private cars, but is just as likely to be your plumber, a delivery van, or a coach serving the three adjacent schools. Some residents of the road have been campaigning to reduce traffic; and there are of course concerns about the increased number of cycle-related accidents at the junction with King Street since C9 was added, notably including a vocal Jeremy Vine.

The LTN was created by a discreet 18 month temporary traffic order in September . It was announced publicly on 20th November – the same evening that Conway were photographed burning off the road markings – and implemented with unseemly haste the next day.  The fixed signage shown, matches the discreetness of the traffic order, especially amongst the visual cacophony of all the other signage, and one can imagine that many won’t have time to read it, and its potentially expensive consequences, having come off the busy and faster A4.

The council will be rubbing their hands with glee as their coffers fill up.  Recall that the South Fulham TCPR was created the same way, then made permanent, further dividing the residents, creating a 12,000 signature campaign, and pushing some businesses over the edge, while rapidly ballooning the council’s £34 million fines income.

It’s been suggested that speed bumps might be a rather simpler and better disincentive, but that would cost money rather than raise it. Despite LBHF claiming to have done a deal with Uber, some Uber drivers and cab firms still won’t serve the TCPR zone, not wanting to take the risk of being fined. Once bitten, twice shy. We’ve also heard of tradesmen that prioritise other jobs, and/or charge extra or simply refuse to attend properties within such zones.

The proposed ‘turning circle’ appears an unusually dangerous concept on such a busy road and doesn’t yet exist as the adjacent photo shows. The current arrangement is clearly noncompliant with the highway code (clause 201), needing a reversing manoeuvre into the busy A4 as the photo shows. A similar concept in Fulham has raised concerns at the adjacent school –  they ask locals not to use it.

Background

In June 2023, the council announced that they’d be changing the King Street / Rivercourt road junction to address C9 accidents, a potential danger we’d highlighted before C9 was built, and have since documented. The proposal was to narrow the throat so that cyclists and drivers could see each other more easily, with room for only one vehicle at a time – so far, so good. This went ahead with some limited local opposition due to loss of school coach parking space, but support of those looking to reduce traffic levels and reduce C9 dangers.

It appears that traffic queuing problems – not necessarily volumes – have increased since C9 due to delays in getting across the difficult and somewhat dangerous junction into King St, and not apparently improved by the narrowing.  Vehicles travelling the other way into Rivercourt under the new 2-way scheme could produce unexpected hazards for C9 cyclists and pedestrians, as Latymer Upper have advised their pupils.

Weltje road residents appear to have a range of opinions on the suggestion by the council for something similar in their road, one writing to us describing the proposals as “mind numbingly stupid”, but others supporting a second LTN.

The imposition of this LTN appears to be the consequence of trying to make a poor plan work in the real world, without enough design thought or meaningful consultation – a doubling down on earlier errors, rather than a careful rethink.

Consultation and Information

The council held a hyperlocal consultation with Rivercourt residents in March this year in which they say that the majority of attendees were in favour of the LTN scheme. But this involved just 7 supporters, and we note the addressing of ‘volume’, not risks or queuing. TfL modelling suggested no ill effects on the A4 – unsurprising given the relative sizes of the A4 and Rivercourt. There’s no mention of the effect on the Broadway or Chiswick High Road, already seriously congested, resulting in the slowest average bus speeds on record at just 8 mph in Hammersmith. The impacts on the ‘4000 motorists’ will be substantive as will the no-go problems experienced in the south Fulham TCPR.

Residents raised concerns about removal of parking space, particularly for the adjacent schools and their related coaches, adding to the problems caused by C9 which prevents temporary parking, creating so-called ‘sterile kerbs’ in King St.  Latymer Upper were not directly consulted, and have raised ‘strong objections’ with this further imposition.

The March event was so local that there’s no record of it three or four streets away, and in fact there were no announcements of plans to the wider community until the day before it was implemented. The dates on the council information flyers show that they were originated less than a week before implementation, the website article appeared on the 20th.

The council’s page and publicity on the subject appears surprisingly reactionary, saying ‘80% of those motorists are out of borough commuters’. How do they know they are ‘commuters’ (is that a crime?), why use the word ‘motorist’ (an intentionally loaded term), and are ‘out of borough’ lesser mortals (surely not illegal immigrants? – Ed) and what if the side effects damage businesses, such as Hitchcock & King, pushed over the edge by the South Fulham LTN?

The air pollution statement shown appears out of context from a 2018 WHO paper, largely concerned with extreme pollution in the Global South, the numbers revealing an ALRI attributable death rate of  3 per 100,000 in the UK, i.e. 0.003%, a significant proportion of that miniscule number having causes unrelated to air pollution.

As a resident or business you can apply for a permit for a visitor via their clunky Ringo App which residents say is unfit for purpose (offering just one user per address), but that didn’t save Hitchcocks, badly affected inside the TCPR, and their popular nearby Hammersmith branch no longer exists. There is at least supposed to be a three-week grace period before fines are issued.

Conclusion

This seems to be yet another divisive LTN pitting resident against resident, just one street apart, plus schools and businesses against the council, a typical problem with LTN’s across London – the same issues seen with the South Fulham TCPR under the same management. A small handful of people gain, while the vast majority lose, including those stuck on buses in congested King St. least able to make alternative arrangements. Importantly in the world of ‘growth’ : real businesses suffer as documented, while the dangers have not been been proven addressed.

The council’s public ‘othering’ of  people going about their normal lawful business is extraordinary.


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         Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions24/11/24 16:21:00 Elizabeth Price
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions24/11/24 16:59:00 Sam Hearn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions24/11/24 17:10:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions24/11/24 17:25:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions25/11/24 08:41:00 Michael Good
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions25/11/24 09:21:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions25/11/24 10:40:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 02:16:00 Andrew Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 08:56:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 13:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 14:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 14:23:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 14:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 03:01:00 Andrew Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 06:20:00 Paul Campbell
         Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane25/11/24 10:16:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane25/11/24 13:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane26/11/24 09:34:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane26/11/24 10:27:00 Tom Pike
                     Reply26/11/24 10:38:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane26/11/24 10:44:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane26/11/24 20:15:00 Justin Stephenson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane26/11/24 20:38:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 10:05:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 11:27:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 12:05:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 13:19:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 12:59:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 13:12:00 Michael Good
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 14:13:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 22:30:00 Michael Good
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 22:35:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Reply28/11/24 09:30:00 Francis Rowe
                                       Re:Reply28/11/24 10:22:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Reply28/11/24 23:32:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Reply29/11/24 09:01:00 Francis Rowe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply29/11/24 09:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply29/11/24 09:59:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply29/11/24 14:36:00 Francis Rowe
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply29/11/24 15:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply30/11/24 08:31:00 Francis Rowe
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply30/11/24 09:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply30/11/24 18:26:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Increased casualties at Chiswick Lane27/11/24 13:29:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions25/11/24 16:58:00 John Southey
         Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 14:42:00 Russell Pearson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 14:54:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 15:14:00 Jayne Thorburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 15:32:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions26/11/24 16:05:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 14:55:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 15:15:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 16:05:00 Mark Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 16:16:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions02/12/24 10:40:00 Mark Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions02/12/24 10:48:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions02/12/24 12:13:00 Andrew Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions02/12/24 12:35:00 Andrew Jones
                                          Reply02/12/24 13:15:00 Paul Campbell
                                             Re:Reply02/12/24 15:15:00 Mark Evans
                                                Re:Re:Reply03/12/24 09:57:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Reply03/12/24 10:03:00 Paul Campbell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply04/12/24 10:05:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply04/12/24 11:36:00 Paul Campbell
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply04/12/24 15:13:00 Andrew Jones
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply05/12/24 10:25:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply05/12/24 10:46:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 20:39:00 Russell Pearson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 20:47:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions27/11/24 20:50:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions28/11/24 19:14:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions05/12/24 11:52:00 Peter Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions05/12/24 12:21:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions11/12/24 06:51:00 Francis Rowe
                                 Reply11/12/24 10:33:00 Michael Good
                                    Re:Reply11/12/24 11:45:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Reply11/12/24 11:51:00 Andrew Jones
                                       Re:Re:Reply11/12/24 12:12:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions11/12/24 16:35:00 Nik Solomon
      Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions11/12/24 17:35:00 Andrew Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions11/12/24 22:29:00 Andrew Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions13/12/24 07:28:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions16/12/24 16:42:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions17/12/24 17:05:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions17/12/24 17:27:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 10:00:00 Robert Dawbarn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 10:05:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 13:14:00 Madeleine Hazard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions17/12/24 21:12:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 09:23:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 10:01:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 17:33:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 19:29:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions18/12/24 19:53:00 David Turner
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions20/12/24 10:44:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions20/12/24 10:56:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions20/12/24 13:56:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully20/12/24 14:02:00 Maggie Dodge
                                       Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully20/12/24 17:32:00 Peter Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully20/12/24 17:40:00 Paul Campbell
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully22/12/24 19:29:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully23/12/24 07:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully23/12/24 07:41:00 Paul Campbell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully23/12/24 23:51:00 Mark Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully24/12/24 07:05:00 Paul Campbell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully14/01/25 15:36:00 Mark Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Victory and a precedent hopefully14/01/25 23:40:00 Madeleine Hazard
   Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions15/01/25 12:38:00 Tim Janman
      Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions15/01/25 13:06:00 Mark Talbot
         Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions15/01/25 13:10:00 Julia Fresney
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions17/01/25 09:14:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions19/01/25 08:30:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions19/01/25 08:30:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions19/01/25 11:32:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions21/01/25 11:17:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions21/01/25 11:48:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions22/01/25 09:34:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rivercourt Road restrictions22/01/25 10:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Reply23/01/25 09:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Reply23/01/25 10:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Reply23/01/25 11:53:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Reply23/01/25 13:13:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Reply23/01/25 13:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes23/01/25 15:00:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Reply23/01/25 15:11:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes23/01/25 15:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:23/01/25 15:25:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes23/01/25 15:42:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Reply24/01/25 10:45:00 Mark Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes24/01/25 11:12:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 09:35:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                  Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 09:44:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 10:13:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 11:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 13:48:00 Mark Talbot
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 14:08:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 15:12:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'27/01/25 16:24:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'28/01/25 08:38:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'28/01/25 09:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'30/01/25 08:37:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'30/01/25 09:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'31/01/25 14:48:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'31/01/25 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'31/01/25 18:14:00 David Turner
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'01/02/25 10:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'02/02/25 14:01:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'03/02/25 09:28:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Out of borough commuters'03/02/25 11:11:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                     Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes03/02/25 13:45:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes04/02/25 11:13:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes04/02/25 12:58:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:XL Bully goes after human centipedes05/02/25 09:13:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re: human centipedes05/02/25 10:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:the human centipede04/02/25 13:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                              Reply06/02/25 10:24:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                                                                 Re:Reply06/02/25 11:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Reply07/02/25 09:44:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Reply07/02/25 14:10:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply10/02/25 14:33:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply10/02/25 15:02:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply10/02/25 16:28:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply11/02/25 09:44:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply11/02/25 12:01:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply12/02/25 08:54:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply12/02/25 19:25:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply12/02/25 21:24:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply12/02/25 21:25:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply13/02/25 08:02:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                                                 Re:Reply06/02/25 18:25:00 Tom Pike
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