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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access
Posted by: Jeremy Parkinson
Date/Time: 27/03/23 08:32:00

It seems to me wrong to get too complacent about traffic levels in the area. With Heathrow not yet back to normal levels, the chances are A4 traffic will increase further. Also any short term ULEZ benefits will be diminishing. Chiswick High Road may have fewer vehicle movements due to drivers avoiding due to the congestion but some of that traffic will have been displaced onto roads like Chiswick Lane, SCR and Dukes Avenue. It would be interesting to see data for traffic flows on those roads.

I agree that the paramount consideration here should be avoiding people getting seriously hurt. I was surprised in that respect not to see immediate work taking place at the dangerous King Street junctions to ensure available funds from the current financial year were not lost. However, the priority should be to get these junctions fixed. You (Tom Pike) have assured us that better junction treatments will reduce casualties and, if you are correct, there doesn't seem to me any need for further measures.

If the casualty toll for cyclists continues to rise, this needs a proper strategic approach rather than the suck-it-and-see mess we have had so far. You are currently accusing everybody who raises concerns about safety and congestion of hypothesising, when your claims about why shutting Weltje Road and Rivercourt Road will stop serious injuries to cyclists and won't cause further congestion in Chiswick are equally speculative as far as I can see.

If cyclists continue to get injured on King Street after the junctions are improved, then we do have to look at closing Weltje Road and Rivercourt Road. However, this should only be done after a proper independent cross-borough analysis shows clearly that such a move would not simply transfer the risk elsewhere and wouldn't cause significant extra gridlock in Chiswick.


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Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 09:51:00 Mark Evans
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 10:44:00 Bill George
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:24:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:39:00 Mark Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:57:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:03:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:24:00 Mark Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:43:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 14:47:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:00:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:20:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:40:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:57:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 16:27:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 14:17:00 Nik Solomon
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:46:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 16:18:00 Michael Good
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 09:11:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 09:43:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 10:58:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 11:49:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 12:15:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 12:57:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:28:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:52:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 15:33:00 Bill George
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 15:58:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:10:00 Karen Lang
         Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:45:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:13:00 Karen Lang
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:17:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:04:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 08:40:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:09:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:20:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:38:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 10:29:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:51:00 Michael Good
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:58:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:12:00 Michael Good
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:17:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:15:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:28:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 13:35:00 Francis Rowe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 14:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 15:20:00 Francis Rowe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:00:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:34:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:56:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:57:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 18:02:00 Michael Robinson
                        maths mistake24/03/23 18:19:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:maths mistake24/03/23 21:15:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 19:44:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 20:41:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 21:25:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 07:58:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 09:19:00 Al Webber
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 15:31:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 09:18:00 Mark Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 13:28:00 Justin Stephenson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 15:25:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access26/03/23 09:57:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 06:54:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 07:52:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:00:00 Michael Good
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:06:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:09:00 Michael Good
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:36:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:58:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 09:21:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:17:00 Bill George
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:41:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 10:41:00 Bill George
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 12:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:32:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 09:02:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access26/03/23 11:07:00 Carl Johns
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 07:37:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 16:03:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 16:16:00 Adrian Irving
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 16:47:00 Tom Pike

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