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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access
Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 24/03/23 18:02:00

Frances,

It isn't 500 vehicles at peak hour turning into Weltje.  Apologies if I said that. Total peak hour traffic for  Weltje plus Rivercourt is about 500.  The morning peak hour traffic of vehicles turning into Weltje is ~200 and evening peak hour ~300 vehicles.

In comparison, a road like Netheravon that doesn't have access to the A4 has peak hour traffic of about 20 vehicles turning into it.

Of the vehicles turning into Weltje Rd, the ratio is ~60% westbound turning left and ~40% eastbound turning right.

Closing access at Weltje Rd will mean some of the westbound vehicles will access the A4 at the gyratory.  Some will continue on to Chiswick Lane but they certainly won't continue on past Chiswick Lane to Dukes Ave or SCR. That would mean at least a 2km journey to get to the same place they could get to by turning left at Chiswick Lane.

Of the eastbound vehicles turning right into Weltje, this represents about 240 vehicles during the evening peak. I think it is highly unlikely vehicles are driving the length of the A315 past SCR, Dukes and Chiswick Lane just to turn into Weltje for the eastbound A4.

Anyway, so what if these vehicles turn into SCR, or Duke Ave or Chiswick Lane or even continue on to the gyratory? This volume of traffic really isn't significant compared to the existing traffic using these junctions.

The general approach of traffic engineering is to look at the peak and the rest can look after itself.  There won't be a big engineering study into the possible impact of a few hundred vehicles during the peak.  This really is a tiny amount of traffic compared to the other roads in the area.

Other things will be far more important for LBHF to assess.  For example, access for council bin/recycling lorries - is there room for them to turnaround, would there need to be parking removed, would they need to reverse out?


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Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 09:51:00 Mark Evans
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 10:44:00 Bill George
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:24:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:39:00 Mark Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 11:57:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:03:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:24:00 Mark Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 12:43:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 14:47:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:00:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:20:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:40:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:57:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 16:27:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 14:17:00 Nik Solomon
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 15:46:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access21/03/23 16:18:00 Michael Good
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 09:11:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 09:43:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 10:58:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 11:49:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 12:15:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 12:57:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:28:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:52:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 15:33:00 Bill George
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 15:58:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:10:00 Karen Lang
         Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 13:45:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:13:00 Karen Lang
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:17:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access23/03/23 14:04:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 08:40:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:09:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:20:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 09:38:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 10:29:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:51:00 Michael Good
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:58:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:12:00 Michael Good
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:17:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:15:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 12:28:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 13:35:00 Francis Rowe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 14:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 15:20:00 Francis Rowe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:00:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 11:34:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:56:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 16:57:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 18:02:00 Michael Robinson
                        maths mistake24/03/23 18:19:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:maths mistake24/03/23 21:15:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 19:44:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 20:41:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access24/03/23 21:25:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 07:58:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 09:19:00 Al Webber
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 15:31:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 09:18:00 Mark Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 13:28:00 Justin Stephenson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access25/03/23 15:25:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access26/03/23 09:57:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 06:54:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 07:52:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:00:00 Michael Good
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:06:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:09:00 Michael Good
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:36:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:58:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 09:21:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:17:00 Bill George
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:41:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 10:41:00 Bill George
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 12:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 08:32:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 09:02:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access26/03/23 11:07:00 Carl Johns
      Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 07:37:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 16:03:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Closing Weltje Road/Rivercourt Road access27/03/23 16:16:00 Adrian Irving
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