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Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 24/02/20 09:53:00

However we DON’T have a road network that operates safely with autonomous cars so a claim of “it will work for cars so it will work for trains” is just uninformed speculation.

Indeed, there is no guarantee that autonomous cars will ever work in densely packed, complex urban environments.

Maybe the reaction against GPS is because some people are clearly uninformed of the reality of what is required for a signalling system and don’t appear to have done even the most basic of research.

Claims of “GPS/WiFi has to be on the menu” when a little research will demonstrate that it isn’t.

Nothing to do with drivers, more laws of physics. The people claiming WiFi is the answer don’t appear to be aware that even today on the Jubilee and Victoria lines the train driving and stopping is autonomous ( without any GPS and WiFi ..) and the driver is there to close the doors and provide the “if you don’t clear the doors, we aren’t going anywhere” announcements.

The projects to resignal those lines also went over budget and time. Some things in life are just inherently complex and upgrading a working railway is one of them.

But anyway, it’s all just a bit of banter on a local forum.  Nothing I say, or the people who think WiFi is the answer will make the slightest bit of difference to the manufacturers who are producing the signalling products or the operators deploying them.


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   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:30:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:53:00 Michael Robinson
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         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:26:00 Alastair Banton
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                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 13:02:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:02:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:36:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:05:00 Al Webber
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 20:14:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green07/02/20 22:43:00 Caroline Carrington
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 02:54:00 Joanna Biddolph
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 08:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 10:26:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 13:22:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:17:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:18:00 Michael Robinson
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                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 22:26:00 Marlene Johnson
   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 08:54:00 Graham Bird
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 11:53:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 15:27:00 Marlene Johnson
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         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:48:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:50:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 10:02:00 Catherine Griffiths
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 08:22:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 19:48:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 08:04:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:18:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:36:00 Gordon McDonald
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 11:59:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 13:04:00 Michael Robinson
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                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:59:00 Al Webber
                                       Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:07:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:19:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 14:49:00 Dan Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 11:38:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 12:55:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 15:36:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 17:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                               Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 19:21:00 Richard Jennings
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 18:19:00 Al Webber
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 16:46:00 Dan Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Reply17/02/20 15:14:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                        Re:Reply17/02/20 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Reply17/02/20 16:18:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                              Re:Reply17/02/20 19:12:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply17/02/20 19:56:00 Gordon McDonald
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:17:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:53:00 Al Webber
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:07:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:55:00 Al Webber
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:22:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:36:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 13:00:00 Dan Evans
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 14:13:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                Reply24/02/20 09:04:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 10:07:00 Al Webber

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