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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green
Posted by: Al Webber
Date/Time: 08/02/20 13:22:00

The current services are already operating at capacity, so a progressive expansion" is not possible without changes to the rolling stock and/or signalling.

When the new signalling system on the sub-surface lines is live everywhere, there will be some improvement to the District line service.  They will be able fit more trains through Earl's Court than they can currently.  Some of those will go to Wimbledon, but it will mean a few extra District line trains to Turnham Green in the peak.  I'm not sure of the exact numbers though.  If they can fit an extra 6 or 8 trains per through Earl's Court, then I'd guess that we might see an extra 3 or 4 per hour through Turnham Green.

There is nothing they can do with the Piccadilly at the moment.  When the new trains arrive, they might have slightly greater capacity, and better acceleration, but initially they won't be able to make use of the acceleration as they will be mixed in with the existing trains from the 70s.

Once the old trains have gone, speeds might be able to go up a bit - if the track is good enough.  Given the cuts to the track renewal programme in the last few years, they will be bringing the new trains (with much heavier axle loads) in when there will still be a lot of old track around.  That is a recipe for problems.  With modern ultrasonic testing of rails, it should be safe, but the maintenance bill to keep it safe will be large.

Crossrail will help a bit.  It will reduce overcrowding on the Piccadilly and the District.  That should make station dwell times a bit better.

With the plan to run the Piccadilly to Ealing Broadway, you won't be able to do that gradually.  When that is implemented, there will be wholesale timetable change overnight.  There is no other way to implement it.


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Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:02:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:30:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:53:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:18:00 Gordon McDonald
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green07/02/20 12:36:00 Basil Finnis
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:26:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 21:47:00 Caroline Carrington
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 22:15:00 James Carter
                     PiccaDist06/02/20 22:59:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 11:33:00 Paul Corcoran
                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 13:02:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:02:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:36:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:05:00 Al Webber
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 20:14:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green07/02/20 22:43:00 Caroline Carrington
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 02:54:00 Joanna Biddolph
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 08:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 10:26:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 13:22:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:17:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:18:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:58:00 Richard Cunningham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 22:26:00 Marlene Johnson
   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 08:54:00 Graham Bird
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 11:53:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 15:27:00 Marlene Johnson
            Reply09/02/20 15:59:00 Carl Wynne
      Reply09/02/20 16:03:00 Carl Wynne
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 01:12:00 Peter Mielewczyk
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:48:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:50:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 10:02:00 Catherine Griffiths
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 08:22:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 19:48:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 08:04:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:18:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:36:00 Gordon McDonald
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 11:59:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 13:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 09:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:59:00 Al Webber
                                       Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:07:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:19:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 14:49:00 Dan Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 11:38:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 12:55:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 15:36:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 17:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                               Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 19:21:00 Richard Jennings
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 18:19:00 Al Webber
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 16:46:00 Dan Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Reply17/02/20 15:14:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                        Re:Reply17/02/20 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Reply17/02/20 16:18:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                              Re:Reply17/02/20 19:12:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply17/02/20 19:56:00 Gordon McDonald
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:17:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:53:00 Al Webber
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:07:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:55:00 Al Webber
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:22:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:36:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 13:00:00 Dan Evans
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 14:13:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                Reply24/02/20 09:04:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 10:07:00 Al Webber

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