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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: Al Webber
Date/Time: 21/02/20 11:55:00

With the current system, if the train goes past a signal at red - even after approval from the controller, it will have the emergency brakes applied, and after resetting it, is restricted to 5mph for a period of time afterwards.

The only way to do what you sugggest would be to disable part of the system and stop the automatic braking of trains.  What if the GPS transponder on the train in front of you has failed and you have turned off the automatic emergency braking system?  No-one in any position of responsibility is going to sign off on something that makes the railway less safe. 

It would also be a very costly thing to do.  You couldn't do it in an uncontrolled fashion.  You would need a record of what you had done, and which signals had been modified.  You would have to modify lots of drawings at significant cost, especially as a lot of the drawings probably aren't on a CAD system.  Then you would need to add the actual cost of going to site and physically modifying the systems - which is not a trivial job.

For all of those reasons, it's a total non-starter, but there would be another monster issue to deal with - the trade unions.  ASLEF and the RMT would (rightly) not countenance their drivers being put in a position where they could be in a crash.  They wouldn't even have to go on strike and lose pay.  Staff have a right to refuse to do something unsafe - like drive a train without these protections.


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   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 18:30:00 Alastair Banton
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green07/02/20 12:36:00 Basil Finnis
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 19:26:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green06/02/20 21:47:00 Caroline Carrington
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                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 11:33:00 Paul Corcoran
                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 13:02:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:02:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:36:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 15:05:00 Al Webber
                        Re:PiccaDist07/02/20 20:14:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green07/02/20 22:43:00 Caroline Carrington
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 02:54:00 Joanna Biddolph
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 08:21:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 10:26:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 13:22:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:17:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:18:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 14:58:00 Richard Cunningham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green08/02/20 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 22:26:00 Marlene Johnson
   Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 08:54:00 Graham Bird
      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 11:53:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green09/02/20 15:27:00 Marlene Johnson
            Reply09/02/20 15:59:00 Carl Wynne
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      Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 01:12:00 Peter Mielewczyk
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:48:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 08:50:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green10/02/20 10:02:00 Catherine Griffiths
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 08:22:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green11/02/20 19:48:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 08:04:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:18:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 10:36:00 Gordon McDonald
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 11:59:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green12/02/20 13:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 09:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 10:59:00 Al Webber
                                       Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:07:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green13/02/20 19:19:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 14:49:00 Dan Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green14/02/20 15:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 11:38:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 12:55:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 15:36:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 17:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                               Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 19:21:00 Richard Jennings
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green15/02/20 18:19:00 Al Webber
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 16:46:00 Dan Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mike Brown's Longing for a Piccadilly Line Stop at Turnham Green16/02/20 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Reply17/02/20 15:14:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                        Re:Reply17/02/20 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Reply17/02/20 16:18:00 Kevin Howard
                                                                              Re:Reply17/02/20 19:12:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply17/02/20 19:56:00 Gordon McDonald
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:17:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 08:53:00 Al Webber
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:07:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:55:00 Al Webber
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:22:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 15:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 11:36:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 13:00:00 Dan Evans
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 14:13:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                Reply24/02/20 09:04:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 09:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Reply24/02/20 10:07:00 Al Webber

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