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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 07/07/23 08:26:00

A survey done in Berlin may be useful in a local context but you can't use it as a basis for a claim that all traders across the world including those in Chiswick consistently overestimate the importance of customers who come by car.

Like most of the other surveys that have come to this conclusion, it has to be questioned whether the result was predetermined. One of the authors works for Active Travel Melbourne and his job is literally to promote active travel.

The available research seems largely to have been commissioned when a council wants to develop a car park site or put up charges. I'd therefore be disinclined to prejudge what the impact on reducing car parking space is likely to be and give more credence to what local business people say.

You have quoted bus data before but sadly it remains inaccessible to the layman so it is hard to verify your claims. What we do know is that there have been factors at play in traffic patterns locally far more impactful than C9 so trying to make a case about its effect in isolation is difficult.

What I can say for sure that observing static traffic in the centre of Chiswick was a relative rare event prior to 2020 and usually indicated a specific problem such as an accident on the A4. Now it endemic. While your figures on bus travel times require further explanation they don't negate what is a very evident observable increase of congestion on the High Road.


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Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 10:47:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 13:09:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:02:00 Susan Engel
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:27:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:42:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 18:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 19:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 20:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 21:18:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 22:50:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 23:49:00 Andrew Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 06:37:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 07:14:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:41:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:55:00 Stewart Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 06:50:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 12:01:00 Janice Evans
   Write in support24/06/23 10:04:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Write in support24/06/23 14:53:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Write in support24/06/23 15:12:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 07:15:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:43:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:49:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:04:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:11:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:22:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:20:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 12:44:00 Bernard Allen
                     Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 10:31:00 Susan Engel
                        Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 11:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           :Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 18:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 19:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 20:19:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?29/06/23 14:02:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 10:53:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:15:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:17:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:24:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:36:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:29:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:37:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 10:39:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 11:12:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 13:56:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 15:17:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:34:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 13:48:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 15:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 18:48:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:50:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 13:53:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:45:00 Robert Fish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:08:00 Anita Blake
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:54:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 12:22:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:02:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 09:10:00 Tom Pike
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support17/07/23 10:40:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                           Reply17/07/23 19:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Reply17/07/23 19:23:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:00:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:24:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                    Reply18/07/23 10:08:00 John Hall
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 10:48:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 11:37:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 12:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:52:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:DON'T write in support13/07/23 14:44:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:18:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:31:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 07:42:00 Adrian Irving
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 09:09:00 Maggie Dodge
   Environmental impact29/06/23 10:58:00 Colin Potter
      Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 12:18:00 Ed Saper
         Re:Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 23:10:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:21:00 Liz de Keyser
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:49:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 15:40:00 Mitra Alam
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July01/07/23 08:32:00 Liz de Keyser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 05:13:00 Mandy Waters
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 08:32:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July19/07/23 09:58:00 Sarah Watts
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:39:00 Karen Liebreich
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:42:00 Karen Liebreich
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:49:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:54:00 Sarah Watts
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 11:18:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 12:35:00 Michael Robinson

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