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Topic: Environmental impact
Posted by: Colin Potter
Date/Time: 29/06/23 10:58:00

So Hounslow Council wants to discourage commuters who may contribute to the local area, but wants to encourage a large fleet of what will be predominantly small diesel vans to drive to the area who will not be contributing to the local economy. I am sure I read the market will be paying less than £50 to the council for use of the car park, that probably explains why the council do not send anyone to clear up the mess after the current markets. Unlike the local shops the market isn’t going to offer any employment to anyone locally, as a few have mentioned it may cause local job losses.

The food waste created by the market is going to be horrendous, commercial catering always creates more waste than domestic catering, partly caused by not wanting to run out. If you are cooking a roast dinner for six people, you may add one potato just in case you need it. If you are cooking for six hundred people that is a hundred extra potatoes. What if it rains and the numbers are lower than they expected, unlike a shop they are unlikely to be able to sell the food again. They maybe able to salvage some for use elsewhere, but they are unlikely to donate the left overs because of the fear of litigation, so most of the prepped food will end up in the bin.

Then there is also the refrigeration and cooking of the food. Given the time and space limitations of a stall it is unlikely to be freshly cooked food more likely ¾ precooked and then reheated. (The way Gordon Ramsey complained about, then used in his own restaurants because that is the only financially viable way to do it.) If the food is cooked or just reheated it is likely to be done with gas, a fossil fuel we are supposed to be trying to use less of.

To allow the market would send a very mixed message about the councils stated environmental aims. Discourage car use to the area, so they can promote vans traveling to the area. Create less waste, while allowing an event that will add to the food waste. Reduce the amount of fossil fuels we use, then allowing an event that will use refrigeration and burn fossil fuel on the High road.


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Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 10:47:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 13:09:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:02:00 Susan Engel
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:27:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:42:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 18:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 19:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 20:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 21:18:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 22:50:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 23:49:00 Andrew Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 06:37:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 07:14:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:41:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:55:00 Stewart Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 06:50:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 12:01:00 Janice Evans
   Write in support24/06/23 10:04:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Write in support24/06/23 14:53:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Write in support24/06/23 15:12:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 07:15:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:43:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:49:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:04:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:11:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:22:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:20:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 12:44:00 Bernard Allen
                     Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 10:31:00 Susan Engel
                        Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 11:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           :Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 18:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 19:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 20:19:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?29/06/23 14:02:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 10:53:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:15:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:17:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:24:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:36:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:29:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:37:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 10:39:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 11:12:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 13:56:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 15:17:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:34:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 13:48:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 15:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 18:48:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:50:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 13:53:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:45:00 Robert Fish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:08:00 Anita Blake
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:54:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 12:22:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:02:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 09:10:00 Tom Pike
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support17/07/23 10:40:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                           Reply17/07/23 19:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Reply17/07/23 19:23:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:00:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:24:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                    Reply18/07/23 10:08:00 John Hall
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 10:48:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 11:37:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 12:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:52:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:DON'T write in support13/07/23 14:44:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:18:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:31:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 07:42:00 Adrian Irving
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 09:09:00 Maggie Dodge
   Environmental impact29/06/23 10:58:00 Colin Potter
      Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 12:18:00 Ed Saper
         Re:Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 23:10:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:21:00 Liz de Keyser
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:49:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 15:40:00 Mitra Alam
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July01/07/23 08:32:00 Liz de Keyser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 05:13:00 Mandy Waters
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 08:32:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July19/07/23 09:58:00 Sarah Watts
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:39:00 Karen Liebreich
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:42:00 Karen Liebreich
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:49:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:54:00 Sarah Watts
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 11:18:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 12:35:00 Michael Robinson

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