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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Write in support
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 25/06/23 09:49:00

Tom, this literally is not rocket science and you might have to accept that people, who lack your formidable intellect, have a better grasp of what is going on because their livelihood depends on it. A bit of fuzziness on the exactitude of their statistical analysis doesn't rule out the validity of a trader's overall view.

As I say, I have only spoken to a small number of restaurant cafe owners who I happen to know or have started chatting to after a meal or a coffee. The consensus is that trade is up on the flower market day but less so on other Sundays. The belief appears to be that some trade is lost due to the lack of parking but this is mitigated by the extra parking available on Sundays. Cafes seem to be less dependent on customers who drive and seem to be getting bigger increase in sales on market days.

I'm a bit sceptical about the more ambitious claims for footfall because I think a large amount of people wandering through the markets are those that were coming to the high road anyway and have cross over out of interest. This doesn't really matter to businesses on the southside who will benefit either way and have really seen footfall decline due to the Cycleway which has tended to make people remain on the northside.

The notion that hospitality businesses need to accept the damage a street food market would do to their business is a dangerous one in my view. The High Road seems to become increasingly dominated by chains who get a significant amount of turnover from internet enabled delivery services and businesses like Chipotle and Five Guys have further contributed to the hollowing out of the southside. Ngon was an excellent little business with a loyal following and it couldn't hack it. The independents have now been largely ghettoised into Devonshire Road and that does appear to be doing relatively well but the impression I get is that this is a very fragile recovery and badly judged policies could end it.


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Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 10:47:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 13:09:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:02:00 Susan Engel
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:14:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:27:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 14:42:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 18:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 19:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 20:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 21:18:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 22:50:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July23/06/23 23:49:00 Andrew Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 06:37:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 07:14:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:41:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July24/06/23 08:55:00 Stewart Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 06:50:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July25/06/23 12:01:00 Janice Evans
   Write in support24/06/23 10:04:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Write in support24/06/23 14:53:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Write in support24/06/23 15:12:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 07:15:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:43:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 09:49:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:04:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:11:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:22:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 10:20:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support25/06/23 12:44:00 Bernard Allen
                     Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 10:31:00 Susan Engel
                        Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?26/06/23 11:13:00 Paul Campbell
                           :Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 18:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 19:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re::Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market ?  No !26/06/23 20:19:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Do people really want a "fast" sorry - ''street" food market?29/06/23 14:02:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 10:53:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:15:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:17:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:24:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support26/06/23 11:36:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:29:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 08:37:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 10:39:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 11:12:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 13:56:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support04/07/23 15:17:00 Bill George
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:34:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 08:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 13:48:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 15:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support06/07/23 18:48:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support07/07/23 08:50:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 13:53:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support12/07/23 15:45:00 Robert Fish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:08:00 Anita Blake
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 08:54:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support13/07/23 12:22:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:02:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 08:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support14/07/23 09:10:00 Tom Pike
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Write in support17/07/23 10:40:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                           Reply17/07/23 19:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Reply17/07/23 19:23:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:00:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 09:24:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                    Reply18/07/23 10:08:00 John Hall
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 10:48:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 11:37:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/07/23 12:54:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:DON'T write in support06/07/23 14:52:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:DON'T write in support13/07/23 14:44:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:18:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July26/06/23 12:31:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 07:42:00 Adrian Irving
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July27/06/23 09:09:00 Maggie Dodge
   Environmental impact29/06/23 10:58:00 Colin Potter
      Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 12:18:00 Ed Saper
         Re:Re:Environmental impact29/06/23 23:10:00 Susan Engel
   Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:21:00 Liz de Keyser
      Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 13:49:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July30/06/23 15:40:00 Mitra Alam
         Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July01/07/23 08:32:00 Liz de Keyser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 05:13:00 Mandy Waters
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July07/07/23 08:32:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July19/07/23 09:58:00 Sarah Watts
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:39:00 Karen Liebreich
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:42:00 Karen Liebreich
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:49:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 09:54:00 Sarah Watts
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 11:18:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Streetfood Market has reapplied - representations due by 2nd July20/07/23 12:35:00 Michael Robinson

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