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Topic: UK Statistics Authority, FullFact and FactCheck
Posted by: Thomas Barry
Date/Time: 10/07/13 17:35:00

"And so why should he believe government figures and views any more than newspaper figures and views?"

One reason is that they're (well, central government, local government including the London mayoralty is exempt) are actually subject to statutory oversight by the UK Statistics Authority, which has a code of conduct and writes rude letters and publishes them on its website when it catches them bending.  They're quite fun to read.

http://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/reports---correspondence/correspondence/index.html

I'm sure if a similar system was imposed on the press they'd accept it in the same good grace as they've accepted the Leveson Inquiry recommendations on accuracy and conduct.  You do get the odd funny like the Daily Mail, on being caught telling lies, blaming the DWP for supplying them - Iain Duncan Smith, not surprisingly, has got quite a lot of rude letters from the UKSA about misuse of national statistics, which tells you a lot about the DWP.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/07/daily-mail-corrects-misleading-benefit-statistics-dwp-prepares-mps-grilling

Also, FullFact and Channel 4's FactCheck are both pretty good on finding out the reality behind the spin.  Basically there's no real excuse for anyone with a brain and an internet connection being as ignorant as the IpsosMORI poll suggests.


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Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:06:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:08:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:11:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:20:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:27:00 Birna Helgadottir
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:31:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:51:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:08:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:29:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:56:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:15:00 Martin Whaley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:18:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:34:00 Martin Whaley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:57:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:12:00 Martin Whaley
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:47:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:33:00 Stewart Dean
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 20:12:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:52:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:04:00 Martin Whaley
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:20:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:37:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:07:00 Richard Cathcart
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:11:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:46:00 Birna Helgadottir
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:37:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:47:00 Richard Cathcart
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:00:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:04:00 Malcolm Peltu
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:44:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:23:00 Richard Cathcart
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:12:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:39:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:06:00 Richard Cathcart
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:37:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:58:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:03:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:58:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:57:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:22:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:28:00 Georgina Flint
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:33:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:39:00 Stewart Dean
                     UK Statistics Authority, FullFact and FactCheck10/07/13 17:35:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:UK Statistics Authority, FullFact and FactCheck10/07/13 18:21:00 Stewart Dean
            Not 'estimates'11/07/13 19:25:00 Thomas Barry
         Benefit fraud figures10/07/13 17:24:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:48:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.11/07/13 18:46:00 Claire Moran
         local nitwits...11/07/13 19:19:00 Stuart Kerr
            Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:34:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:45:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:54:00 Stuart Kerr
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:04:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:07:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:09:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:21:00 Pete Mayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:22:00 Pete Mayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:57:00 Stuart Kerr

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