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Topic: Re:Major things we get wrong.
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 10/07/13 14:37:00

These kind of 'aren't we clever and aren't the general public stupid' articles are indicative of a very deep malaise in UK media.

If you were to ask people to guess what percentage of the world's population is going to starve this year they would probably overestimate by a wide margin. That doesn't mean that there is no problem and nobody would claim that is the case. Yet that the logic being made to justify this rather specious argument.

The British public are instinctively right when the identify benefit fraud as an issue probably because a large proportion are aware of examples. That they over-estimate the proportion misses the point. By expressing the official estimates as 70p for every £100 of benefits is a fairly crass attempt to obscure the real figure which if these numbers are true would be £1.45 billion. In fact the official estimates are likely to be on the low side. This is not a 'non existant' problem.


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Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:06:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:08:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:11:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:20:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:27:00 Birna Helgadottir
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:31:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 10:51:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:08:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:29:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:56:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:15:00 Martin Whaley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:18:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:34:00 Martin Whaley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 12:57:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:12:00 Martin Whaley
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:47:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:33:00 Stewart Dean
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 20:12:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:52:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:04:00 Martin Whaley
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 11:20:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:37:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:07:00 Richard Cathcart
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:11:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:46:00 Birna Helgadottir
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:37:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 13:47:00 Richard Cathcart
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:00:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:04:00 Malcolm Peltu
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:44:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:23:00 Richard Cathcart
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:12:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:39:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:06:00 Richard Cathcart
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:37:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:58:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:03:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 14:58:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 15:57:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:22:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:28:00 Georgina Flint
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:33:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:39:00 Stewart Dean
                     UK Statistics Authority, FullFact and FactCheck10/07/13 17:35:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:UK Statistics Authority, FullFact and FactCheck10/07/13 18:21:00 Stewart Dean
            Not 'estimates'11/07/13 19:25:00 Thomas Barry
         Benefit fraud figures10/07/13 17:24:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Major things we get wrong.10/07/13 16:48:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Major things we get wrong.11/07/13 18:46:00 Claire Moran
         local nitwits...11/07/13 19:19:00 Stuart Kerr
            Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:34:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:45:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 19:54:00 Stuart Kerr
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:04:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:07:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...11/07/13 20:09:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:21:00 Pete Mayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:22:00 Pete Mayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:local nitwits...12/07/13 12:57:00 Stuart Kerr

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