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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'
Posted by: Jonathan Bingham
Date/Time: 10/11/10 16:24:00

As far as I know the intelligence services generally manage to find out the info they need without torture, or I am sure we would have heard about it, so these escalating scenarios about saving the panet by pulling out someone's fingernails are just so much hot air. And although there are calls (although I'm not sure who from) to detain suspects for longer, there are no calls to allow torture.

As for the legal stuff there is a UN convention on torture which says that:
For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.

The UK are signatories, but not the US (no surprise there then).


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 08:38:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 09:01:00 Bobby Charlton
      Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 10:21:00 Jonathan Bingham
         Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 11:03:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 11:41:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 18:56:00 Lou Valdini
      Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 11:54:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 12:22:00 C Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 13:47:00 Vanessa Smith
   Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 11:03:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 11:13:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 14:44:00 John Connelly
         Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 15:19:00 Malcolm Peltu
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 15:38:00 Bobby Charlton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 16:57:00 Malcolm Peltu
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 17:49:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'09/11/10 20:59:00 Andy Wright
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 08:41:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 09:58:00 Jonathan Bingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 12:15:00 Francis Rowe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 13:18:00 Patrick ONeill
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 13:34:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 10:54:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 11:41:00 Malcolm Peltu
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 11:43:00 Ceref Devin
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 11:53:00 Keith Iddon
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 12:59:00 Neil Muller
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 13:59:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 15:04:00 Neil Muller
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 15:11:00 C Wynne
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 15:57:00 Neil Muller
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:22:00 C Wynne
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:37:00 Neil Muller
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 16:04:00 C Wynne
   Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 14:06:00 Ceref Devin
      Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 14:20:00 Malcolm Peltu
         Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 14:45:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 15:49:00 Brian Haining
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:06:00 Fraser Pearce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:09:00 Ben Willcocks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:24:00 Jonathan Bingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 16:28:00 Neil Muller
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 18:23:00 Alastair Banton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'10/11/10 18:39:00 Tina Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 16:00:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 16:11:00 Michael Mccaffrey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 16:37:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 16:57:00 Michael Mccaffrey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'11/11/10 17:32:00 Tina Pemberton
                                       Support from David Cameron12/11/10 09:44:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                          Re:Support from David Cameron12/11/10 14:13:00 Francis Rowe
                                             Re:Re:Support from David Cameron12/11/10 14:46:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Support from David Cameron12/11/10 15:38:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Support from David Cameron13/11/10 09:21:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Support from David Cameron13/11/10 09:53:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 07:19:00 Monica Devlin
      Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 12:44:00 Malcolm Peltu
         Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 13:42:00 Neil Muller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 13:51:00 C Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 14:36:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'15/11/10 15:01:00 Neil Muller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'UK Lives Saved by Waterboarding'16/11/10 10:18:00 Michael Mccaffrey

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