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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling
Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 02/07/22 12:04:00

Justin,  I looked up regulations for traffic signs and I can't see anything about "hard" and "soft" signs.

There are signs that give orders, signs that give information, but nothing about "hard" or "soft".

If a sign gives an order and you want to remove or change the order, then the sign needs to be changed, doesn't it?

The good news for your plan is that it means it doesn't matter if the sign is No Entry or No Motor Vehicles with exemptions, you are going to have to change the signage it if you want want to permit traffic that isn't normally permitted.  You are free to propose opening up Paxton Rd to relief congestion at Hogarth roundabout.  It just needs a change of sign just like Fishers Lane would.

This may need to be preceded by an Emergency Traffic Order but assuming the paperwork is in place, what is your proposal for changing signage?  Is it high tech and replace the signage with some sort of electronic version, or low tech involving a man and a van and a ladder to put a hood over the sign?

Would you plan to update all of the GPS mapping services with this change then update them back again afterwards?  They don't have a particularly good track record of being responsive to changes.

Anyway. I'm sure you will agree it is completely pointless posting your musings on this forum.  If you are serious, why don't you form a brains trust with other forum members who believe they have the solution to traffic congestion in Chiswick.   You could then write up your proposals and as a first step, perhaps submit it to the journal of the Chartered Institute of Highways and Transportation for consideration.

As the professional body responsible for planning and implementing the road network in the UK, you will get far more valuable feedback that chiswickw4.

Let us know how you get on.


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‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 11:04:00 Lynda Fisher
   Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 11:06:00 Ross MacDonald
      Re:Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 11:18:00 Mandy Waters
         Re:Re:Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 11:50:00 Maggie Dodge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 12:41:00 Jayne Thorburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 13:21:00 Ross MacDonald
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:‘Fishers Lane Bridge has shrunk’25/06/22 13:30:00 Lynda Fisher
                     Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 13:51:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 14:03:00 Jayne Thorburn
                           Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 14:16:00 Colin Jordan
                        Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 14:03:00 Andrew Jones
                        Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 14:31:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 15:05:00 Rahman Hyatt
                        Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 15:09:00 Lynda Fisher
                           Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 15:47:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 17:39:00 Maggie Dodge
                           Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 16:42:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 16:49:00 Lynda Fisher
                                 Not Fisher's Lane25/06/22 17:06:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 17:07:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 17:42:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 17:53:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd25/06/22 17:36:00 Maggie Dodge
                           Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 13:05:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 13:15:00 Maggie Dodge
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 17:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd27/06/22 02:32:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 16:29:00 David Lesniak
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 17:55:00 David Kerr
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 19:00:00 Bill George
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Open Fishers Lane Ltd26/06/22 19:13:00 Mandy Waters
                                    Onesie arrogance and incompetence 26/06/22 21:58:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re LCC interference on behalf of cyclists26/06/22 22:25:00 Maggie Dodge
                                       Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 26/06/22 22:47:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 08:26:00 Mark Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 08:53:00 Bill George
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 09:02:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 08:59:00 Ed Saper
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 09:18:00 Bill George
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 09:22:00 Julian Pavey
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 09:58:00 Mark Evans
                                                         Fishers Lane and Wimbledon Fortnight27/06/22 10:59:00 Jackie Elton
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 12:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 12:41:00 Mark Evans
                                                   Reply27/06/22 09:59:00 Ed Saper
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 13:25:00 David Lesniak
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 14:41:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Onesie arrogance and incompetence 27/06/22 15:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Dunne 27/06/22 15:25:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Dunne 27/06/22 15:54:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                          Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling29/06/22 17:38:00 Paul Campbell
                                             Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 09:41:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 10:08:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 10:23:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 12:24:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 12:49:00 Paul Campbell
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 09:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 09:55:00 Paul Campbell
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 13:13:00 David Lesniak
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 10:30:00 Michael Robinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 12:41:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 15:29:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 16:00:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 16:45:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 09:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 12:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 07:15:00 David Lesniak
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 17:59:00 Andrew Jones
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling30/06/22 13:07:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling01/07/22 20:59:00 Mandy Waters
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 18:05:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 18:48:00 Peter Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling02/07/22 19:01:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 11:39:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 15:07:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 15:56:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 17:44:00 Mandy Waters
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 19:28:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling03/07/22 21:08:00 David Burke
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling04/07/22 08:02:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling04/07/22 00:17:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                    Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 06:41:00 Francis Sheehan
                                                                                       Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 08:03:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 08:19:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 09:15:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 13:52:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 16:36:00 David Lesniak
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Hat's off mr Jones04/07/22 15:57:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling04/07/22 08:34:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling04/07/22 15:54:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bishopsgate Supreme Court ruling04/07/22 18:55:00 Maggie Dodge
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