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Topic: Private Car Use
Posted by: Paul Corcoran
Date/Time: 18/01/20 10:31:00

Michael,

Even if my assumptions on private car use are incorrect it does not invalidate the argument for a through road at Chiswick Business Park. Unless of course you believe the notion that making developments car free means they generate no extra traffic. 3,000 extra people will mean more vehicle movements even if not a single one of them owns a car.

If you take the latest DfT figures for Chiswick High Road as a proxy then 75% of vehicle movements are by car or taxi. Let's assume ten percent of those are taxi journeys. You are making an incorrect assumption that a journey by a car is necessarily a journey for non business purposes. It is not disputed that cars make up the bulk of traffic but unless I asked every car I pass walking down the road as you suggest the fact that they appear to be a private car does not mean they are all being used for leisure or journeys to work. People in them could have a job that is peripatic and requires them to drive which will include a huge number of people in a wide variety of industries. Many of these will be providing services that you are part of the ultimate source of demand for.

It would only need a quarter of car journeys to be of this nature to mean that the majority of vehicle movements on Chiswick High Road are not due to car owners using their cars for private purposes. Therefore excluding car owners from developments will only mean there will proportionally less traffic than is generated by the existing population.

I know you like to argue the toss on every single point and are very reluctant to every admit error but all I am basically saying is that if more people move into an area you will get more traffic and you need to plan ahead to deal with that.


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Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 10:32:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 11:01:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 12:52:00 Al Webber
         Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 14:17:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 12:46:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 13:14:00 Paul Corcoran
         Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 13:56:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 14:46:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 15:32:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 16:40:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 17:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 17:36:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 18:05:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 18:14:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 20:05:00 Al Webber
                           Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 18:36:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 19:12:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 19:55:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?17/01/20 20:29:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 02:30:00 Tony Smart
                                 Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 07:15:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 07:30:00 Tony Smart
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 07:42:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 07:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 08:10:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 08:22:00 Ken Munn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?18/01/20 11:02:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Private Car Use18/01/20 10:31:00 Paul Corcoran
                  Re:Private Car Use18/01/20 13:20:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Private Car Use18/01/20 14:21:00 Janice Evans
   Reply17/01/20 18:56:00 Carl Wynne
      Re:Reply17/01/20 19:08:00 Peter Evans
         Reply17/01/20 20:40:00 Carl Wynne
            Reply18/01/20 11:09:00 Kevin Howard
               Reply18/01/20 11:33:00 Carl Wynne
                  Reply18/01/20 11:43:00 Kevin Howard
                     Reply18/01/20 11:47:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Reply18/01/20 11:57:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Reply18/01/20 13:50:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Reply18/01/20 13:58:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply18/01/20 14:02:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/01/20 15:37:00 Al Webber
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/01/20 15:54:00 Ken Munn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/01/20 16:44:00 Al Webber
                                             business opportunity20/01/20 18:14:00 Ken Munn
                     Re:Reply20/01/20 21:48:00 Ruth Mayorcas
   Reply20/01/20 10:24:00 Brenda OSullivan
      Re:Reply20/01/20 10:39:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Reply20/01/20 10:41:00 Julian Pavey
            Reply20/01/20 15:45:00 Kevin Howard
            Re:Re:Re:Reply20/01/20 15:59:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Reply20/01/20 10:55:00 Steve Taylor
         Reply20/01/20 22:13:00 Carl Wynne
            Re:Reply21/01/20 08:20:00 Diane Brown
               Reply21/01/20 09:11:00 Kevin Howard
               Re:Re:Reply21/01/20 09:19:00 Martin Walker
                  Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/20 09:39:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/20 14:58:00 Paul Corcoran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/20 21:11:00 Tony Smart
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/20 10:57:00 Paul Corcoran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/20 11:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/20 15:35:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/01/20 00:23:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/01/20 09:12:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/01/20 09:33:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/01/20 08:44:00 Francis Rowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/01/20 13:28:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Reply21/01/20 11:08:00 Steve Taylor
               Reply21/01/20 19:15:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?22/01/20 11:20:00 Tony Mansell
      Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 09:25:00 Jeffrey Cope
         Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 09:53:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 10:04:00 Matthew Swain
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 10:20:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 10:37:00 Matthew Swain
                  Reply24/01/20 10:38:00 Kevin Howard
                     Re:Reply24/01/20 10:43:00 Al Webber
                        Re:Re:Reply24/01/20 17:19:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply24/01/20 20:19:00 Al Webber
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 10:41:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 10:50:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 11:16:00 Tony Mansell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 14:25:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 12:40:00 Al Webber
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 15:56:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 17:06:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 17:03:00 Ken Munn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is It Time To Consider Opening Chiswick Business Park To Through Traffic?24/01/20 17:20:00 Janice Evans

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