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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under
Posted by: Thomas Barry
Date/Time: 11/02/15 08:47:00

"once they start earning decent wages and get onto the housing ladder (now mid-30's?), they'll likely take up driving again."

Need to challenge this one - the idea that young people will earn enough to buy a place to live in London and run a car will strike Generation Rent as rather fanciful.  Some will, of course, move out of London in order to buy a place, but that merely means they'll be replaced by another generation of non-driving younger people.

In any case levels of home ownership are declining due to the generational theft perpetrated by the baby boomer generation, and it's rather ironic for that generation to pretend that it isn't happening and that the victims of that theft will somewhere down the line reverse the process (how? You own all the bloody houses and are sitting on the profits and vote for governments that perpetuate this).  The temptation to think that today's young people are essentially like you is to be avoided, really.

The reasons for decline in car use are also not provably economic anyway, as levels of carless households are up everywhere, even in richer parts of the city, and levels of car use are lowest in the centre where only the really rich will be able to live soon.

"then I will take advantage"

So we need road pricing, then, or at the very least explicit roadspace reallocation to public transport and cycling (which is essentially what's happened anyway).


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Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 11:49:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:10:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:14:00 Tim Henderson
         Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:44:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:11:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:25:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:51:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:30:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:04:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:14:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:36:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 18:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:44:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:41:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:22:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:33:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:54:00 Richard Cathcart
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:34:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 08:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 17:09:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:56:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under10/02/15 11:36:00 Paul Corcoran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 00:19:00 David Giles
                                       Airbrushing of history11/02/15 08:37:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:51:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 18:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 15:17:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 01:59:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 08:48:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 10:06:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 13:12:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:48:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:08:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:39:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:59:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 12:53:00 Thomas Barry
   Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick14/02/15 23:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 09:17:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 10:08:00 Thomas Barry
            Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 11:18:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 15:14:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 16:07:00 Chris Blishen
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 22:52:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 23:23:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick16/02/15 09:45:00 Richard Greenhough

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