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Topic: Airbrushing of history
Posted by: Thomas Barry
Date/Time: 11/02/15 08:37:00

"the environmental lobby"

The environmental lobby do not want new road tunnels under London justified by fairy stories about white vans, end of story.  They're your allies here.  I could introduce you to the Campaign for Better Transport and London's leading Green politicians if you want and they could explain this.

"Such schemes may well include major tunnels and major urban motorways that were dismissed when Cecil Parkinson was Secretary of State for Transport  and Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister on grounds of cost, respect for the environment, security, safety and political common sense. "

You forget a few things here:
- your own party's role in commissioning all the 1980s studies (set up after Thatcher abolished the GLC which was full square opposed to new London roadbuilding)
- your own party in Hammersmith & Fulham which started the whole idea of putting a massive tunnel portal in Chiswick without asking us
- your own party's Mayoralty which commissioned the Roads Task Force after the 2012 election and is now talking with complete ignorance of history about building new roadspace in West London for congestion relief, as if the entire last 40 years hadn't happened.

The road lobby never die, they come back with this every 20 years.

As ever, David's breathtaking airbrushing of history would raise eyebrows in the old Soviet Union, but that's the modern Conservative Party for you.  Perhaps you could get down off the high horse and get Mary Macleod to stop running around claiming she's got the Turnham Green Piccadilly Line stop and start standing up for her constituency against this nonsense before it's too late?

"Boris can afford to support such visionary schemes knowing that he will shortly be moving onto other possibly even greater things."

Would you vote for him as party leader knowing that he now supports building massive motorways through Chiswick?  He doesn't satisfy the residency requirement for the US Presidency, by the way, and would also have to give up UK citizenship as candidates cannot legally owe loyalty to a foreign monarch - that's kind of the point of the USA.  The big turd Boris is leaving us with is having to refight old battles about the 'inevitability' that London's traffic will rise and we have to demolish London to build space for it - we don't and we shouldn't, as the last 15 years experience in London shows.


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Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 11:49:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:10:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:14:00 Tim Henderson
         Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:44:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:11:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:25:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:51:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:30:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:04:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:14:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:36:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 18:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:44:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:41:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:22:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:33:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:54:00 Richard Cathcart
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:34:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 08:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 17:09:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:56:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under10/02/15 11:36:00 Paul Corcoran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 00:19:00 David Giles
                                       Airbrushing of history11/02/15 08:37:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:51:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 18:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 15:17:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 01:59:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 08:48:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 10:06:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 13:12:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:48:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:08:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:39:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:59:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 12:53:00 Thomas Barry
   Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick14/02/15 23:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 09:17:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 10:08:00 Thomas Barry
            Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 11:18:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 15:14:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 16:07:00 Chris Blishen
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 22:52:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 23:23:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick16/02/15 09:45:00 Richard Greenhough

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