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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under
Posted by: Thomas Barry
Date/Time: 09/02/15 15:56:00

"Article in the Evening Standard online says motorist will have to pay a toll of about two pounds.
Marvellous, now what % will use King Street/CHR to save money do you think? Lots or everyone?"

I laughed when I heard Boris had been backed into admitting that all TfL's road tunnel plans are tolled. This ought to kill it, certainly as far as Chiswick is concerned. Either there's a very short tunnel under Hammersmith for which you're charged 2 or you can go round the gyratory, or there's a very long tunnel which, because much of the A4 traffic joins or leaves in the middle, has an untolled surface road over it for cheapskates to use.

So, for our 1bn+ we get congested roads over an empty tunnel with hideous concrete portals at each end with the occasional rich bloke's limo in it, which for all I know is the point of this whole doohickey.

There's an easier way to do transport planning that doesn't involve importing failed schemes from the USA.


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Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 11:49:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:10:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:14:00 Tim Henderson
         Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 12:44:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:11:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:25:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 13:51:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:30:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:04:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:14:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:36:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 18:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:44:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 14:41:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:22:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:33:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:54:00 Richard Cathcart
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:34:00 Richard Cathcart
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 16:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 08:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 17:09:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under09/02/15 15:56:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under10/02/15 11:36:00 Paul Corcoran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris releases schematic of the Hammersmith fly-under11/02/15 00:19:00 David Giles
                                       Airbrushing of history11/02/15 08:37:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 13:51:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 18:47:00 Thomas Barry
                                             Re:Re:Airbrushing of history11/02/15 15:17:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 01:59:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 08:48:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 10:06:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Airbrushing of history12/02/15 13:12:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 10:48:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:08:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:39:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 11:59:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Long and short tunnels - councillors' opinion please?13/02/15 12:53:00 Thomas Barry
   Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick14/02/15 23:12:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 09:17:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 10:08:00 Thomas Barry
            Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 11:18:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 15:14:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 16:07:00 Chris Blishen
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 22:52:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 17:22:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick15/02/15 23:23:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Engineers' view of what the tunnel construction would mean in Chiswick16/02/15 09:45:00 Richard Greenhough

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