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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick
Posted by: Jeff Gear
Date/Time: 08/02/08 17:40:00

Interesting stuff there Tom, and food for thought.
There's really  nothing for me to argue with in what you say, but it ends up at a position that doesn't work for me.
Thus:

"My only issue is the chance of actually experiencing such a stream".  Guess I was lucky, but I did.  Spent a half hour there mid evening and only one 4 engine plane (747) was in the stream.  Average spacing was about 120 seconds, but this was a noise environment I don't want to live in.

"That is why we must get an ironclad guarantee on the 57 dB Leq contour area."  I like the logic, but the history suggests that no matter how iron the cladding it will somehow melt when BAA want more plane movements.  The other problem for me, as above, is that 57dB is too much anyway, but I recognise that only some proportion of Chiswickians will feel the same.

I agree, trying to stop R3 is way to go.  If R3 goes ahead I guess we'll have to move.

"Because of the way the dB Leq contours work, a noisy plane landing on R3 will cost more than twice the contribution to the noise cap as landing on the existing runways."  Why?  Is a brief explanation possible?


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 18:48:00 Jeff Gear
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 18:59:00 Jim Lawes
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 19:52:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 09:16:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 21:17:00 Jonathan Bingham
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 23:22:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:39:00 Lou Valdini
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 02:50:00 Richard Jennings
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 09:25:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:36:00 Jeff Gear
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:45:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:56:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 12:03:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 12:48:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 15:16:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick04/02/08 18:48:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:08:00 Jeff Gear
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:24:00 Jane Davison
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 14:48:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 15:28:00 Jeff Gear
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 16:27:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 18:10:00 Jeff Gear
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 18:44:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 20:05:00 Jeff Gear
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 20:42:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 12:51:00 Jeff Gear
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 19:23:00 Tim Henderson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:43:00 Richard Jennings
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 22:16:00 Tim Henderson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 08:06:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 17:40:00 Jeff Gear
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 19:53:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 00:47:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 12:28:00 Jeff Gear
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:20:00 Tim Henderson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:46:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:41:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick10/02/08 13:06:00 Jeff Gear
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 15:50:00 Jeff Gear
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 16:16:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 17:34:00 Jane Davison
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 19:09:00 Tim Henderson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 19:37:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 20:07:00 Tim Henderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:45:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 18:34:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 20:30:00 Paul Morris
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 21:07:00 Jo Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:46:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 22:13:00 Jeff Gear
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:47:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 22:25:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:49:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 16:18:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:36:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:51:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 21:56:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 23:41:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:50:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 13:36:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 14:39:00 Tim Henderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:59:00 Tom Pike
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 05:15:00 David Lindsay
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 19:13:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 22:03:00 Jane Davison
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 12:13:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 12:14:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 13:26:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:50:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:52:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 22:45:00 Richard Jennings

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