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Topic: 3rd runway noise in Chiswick
Posted by: Jeff Gear
Date/Time: 01/02/08 18:48:00

I looked up flight BD134 of Jan 23rd on Webtrack today.  This is a flight which has previously attracted comment on this site because it took an unusual short cut to Heathrow over Bedford Park, the Murco Garage, and Chiswick High Road. It was an Airbus A321 and flew directly over my house at 1942ft at 22.52 on Wednesday Jan 23.  The noise was ASTONISHING, a mixture of engine and airframe noise I think.  It completely drowned the TV sound, and would have curtailed any conversation.

Would this aircraft type be landing on a 2200m third runway?  The approach path for this would run directly above Chiswick High Road
A google turned up a Department for Transport document stating that 2180m is the required runway length for the A321.  This is a very common aircraft, and it's an interesting correlation with the current choice of 3rd runway length...

I understand that DfT average noise projections indicate that aircraft noise in Chiswick with a third runway would be like today’s noise levels in Battersea Park - but this illustrates the problem with these wretched "average noise" figures.  Average noise measurements understate the shattering impact of the noise of actual individual flights.  It may be that 54dBA Leq (the DfT forecast average noise level over central Chiswick with a third runway) is similar to the average noise currently experienced in Battersea Park which is overflown half of the time courtesy of runway alternation.  The average noise levels being used are misleading, and simply don’t portray the experience of actual noise from aircraft overhead.  An A321 at 3,600ft over Battersea Park is nothing like as noisy as the A321 at 2000ft over Chiswick was, and that is what really counts.  That is the type of noise that we will suffer.  Every 90 seconds, every day.


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3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 18:48:00 Jeff Gear
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 18:59:00 Jim Lawes
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 19:52:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 09:16:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 21:17:00 Jonathan Bingham
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick01/02/08 23:22:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:39:00 Lou Valdini
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 02:50:00 Richard Jennings
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 09:25:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:36:00 Jeff Gear
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:45:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 11:56:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 12:03:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 12:48:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 15:16:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick04/02/08 18:48:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:08:00 Jeff Gear
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 13:24:00 Jane Davison
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 14:48:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 15:28:00 Jeff Gear
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 16:27:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 18:10:00 Jeff Gear
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 18:44:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 20:05:00 Jeff Gear
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 20:42:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 12:51:00 Jeff Gear
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 19:23:00 Tim Henderson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:43:00 Richard Jennings
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 22:16:00 Tim Henderson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 08:06:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 17:40:00 Jeff Gear
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick08/02/08 19:53:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 00:47:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 12:28:00 Jeff Gear
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:20:00 Tim Henderson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:46:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick09/02/08 17:41:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick10/02/08 13:06:00 Jeff Gear
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 15:50:00 Jeff Gear
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 16:16:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 17:34:00 Jane Davison
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 19:09:00 Tim Henderson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 19:37:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 20:07:00 Tim Henderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:45:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 18:34:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 20:30:00 Paul Morris
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 21:07:00 Jo Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:46:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 22:13:00 Jeff Gear
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:47:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick02/02/08 22:25:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:49:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 16:18:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:36:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:51:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 21:56:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 23:41:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 12:50:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 13:36:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 14:39:00 Tim Henderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick03/02/08 18:59:00 Tom Pike
   Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 05:15:00 David Lindsay
      Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 19:13:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick05/02/08 22:03:00 Jane Davison
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 12:13:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 12:14:00 Russell Peirs
            Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick06/02/08 13:26:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:50:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 21:52:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:3rd runway noise in Chiswick07/02/08 22:45:00 Richard Jennings

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