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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact!
Posted by: Kathleen Healy
Date/Time: 04/05/26 14:00:00

It's a relative not absolute thing.

If the relative becomes extremely unequal, as it was in Victorian England or is in South Africa and the Countries that now have extreme wealth and extreme poverty, it produces many negative consequences for everyone, even the wealthy.

The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better is a book published in 2009. It analysed a number of social ills; physical ill health, mental ill health, crime etc. and found a strong corelation between them and inequality. Countries with lower levels of inequality had populations with lower levels physical and mental ill health, lower crime etc.

The level of equality in a country tends not to be static, it is usually moving in one direction or the other. After the war the direction in the UK was, for many years, towards greater equality. This was a boon for the post war generation, many of whom became wealthier than their parents and grand parents.

From the late 70's on, the direction has been consistently towards greater inequality and is still heading in that direction. The great, global banking fraud of 2008, followed by austerity, accelerated it, as did Covid.

Unless there is change in direction, inequality will continue to grow, with a few people owing more and a large number having less.

The level of inequality is a political choice. The greater levels of equality after the war were due to policies that redistributed wealth down, making the post war generation a generally wealthier one. The policies also produced high economic growth that quickly reduced post war national debt.

The change in political direction from the late 70s has redistributed wealth upwards, over time creating greater inequality.


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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:00:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:00:00 Keith Iddon
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                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:46:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 13:35:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 13:39:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 15:55:00 James Roy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 16:41:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 16:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:03:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:27:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:57:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                          Re:Lawless London30/04/26 21:38:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 23:03:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 23:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 08:05:00 Philippa Bond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 09:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 11:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 19:30:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 08:07:00 Janice Evans
                                             Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 11:28:00 Janice Evans
   Re:Lawless London02/05/26 08:15:00 Nicholas Beard
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 14:49:00 Robert Fish
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                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 22:47:00 Jayne Thorburn
   Re:Lawless London03/05/26 06:17:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Lawless London03/05/26 13:23:00 Philippa Bond
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         Re:  The State Pension makes up the largest part of the Welfare Bill03/05/26 19:14:00 Philippa Bond
   Re: Osborne's Austerity Increased the Debt - 03/05/26 19:23:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re: Osborne's Austerity Increased the Debt - 03/05/26 21:35:00 Robert Fish
         Re:Fish flakes03/05/26 22:36:00 Davy Jones
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               Anti-welfare propaganda 04/05/26 00:58:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 08:22:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 10:27:00 Kathleen Healy
                        Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 10:49:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:15:00 Kathleen Healy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:46:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:51:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 14:00:00 Kathleen Healy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 15:16:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 15:49:00 Janice Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 19:08:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 20:40:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 09:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 10:18:00 Janice Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 10:55:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:24:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:38:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:50:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                     Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                        Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:00:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:09:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:53:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 15:09:00 Janice Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:43:00 Christopher Shea
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:49:00 Janice Evans
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                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:12:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:12:00 Janice Evans
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:16:00 Janice Evans
                                                                              Re:  People who just want to get richer threaten an exodus05/05/26 17:23:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                 Re:Re:  People who just want to get richer threaten an exodus06/05/26 10:38:00 Janice Evans
                                                            Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:14:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 18:11:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:21:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                               Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:11:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:19:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 19:56:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:30:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:30:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 08:36:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 09:16:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 09:34:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 11:05:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 11:06:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                    Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 16:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                       Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 19:00:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 16:08:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 19:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 20:44:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 22:58:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 00:40:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 09:16:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                            Re:They couldn't be any worse....could they ? 08/05/26 10:56:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 17:03:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 17:30:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 10:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 13:39:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 10:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:02:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:22:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:49:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 12:26:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 12:51:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 13:49:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 14:40:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 15:33:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 16:12:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 17:13:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 23:22:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 10/05/26 11:56:00 Kathleen Healy

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