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Topic: Re:Re:Lawless London
Posted by: Kathleen Healy
Date/Time: 03/05/26 13:32:00

Austerity policies, introduced after the great global banking fraud, were justified by a study, Growth in a Time of Debt, by economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff. It said that debt above 90% of GDP significantly slows economic growth. Osborne, the EU and other countries cited it in justifying austerity. It contradicted earlier Keynesian theory that government intervention was necessary when growth stalls to stabilise the economy and stimulate demand and growth.

The study by Rhenihardt and Rogoff was not peer reviewed and the data it was based on not made available. Other Economists later obtained the data and found spreadsheet errors, which undermine the theory and which are now acknowledged by R and R.

Since austerity, debt has grown from around 74% of GDP, low in historic terms, to 93%. It is now generally acknowledged that growth is the way to bring it down.

How was such extreme policy adopted, based on a non peer reviewed paper with a spreadsheet error.

There were alternate economic views at the time. They said the best way out of the debt, caused by bailing out the banks, which were at risk due to colossal fraud, was through growth, underpinned by gov't spending. These alternate voices were given less prominence.

A recent study into BBC bias found that it was not politically biased, but is was criticised for economic bias. Reporting the Rhenhardt Roggoff view, used by Osborne to justify austerity, whilst not putting forward  alternative views, was one of the examples. The whole mainstream media did it. It made it seems as though austerity was the best and only option. No one reported that the paper was non peer reviewed and the data it was based on wasn't available.

One effect of the banking fraud, austerity and QE; or printing money which was given to banks,  has been to increase asset values and  accelerate an already growing wealth gap. The wealth of the top 10% has increased by 280% since 2008.

The poorest 50% of people in the UK now own 5% of the wealth. In real terms what this looks like is food banks, homelessness, crime, insecurity, fear and support for populist politics.


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Lawless London25/04/26 22:27:00 Emma Elizabeth
   Re:Lawless London25/04/26 23:16:00 Andrew Jones
   Re:Lawless London26/04/26 06:56:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Lawless London26/04/26 15:08:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:Lawless London28/04/26 10:07:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London - there's always been lawlessness!29/04/26 15:54:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Lawless London30/04/26 10:47:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 10:49:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 10:52:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:00:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:00:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:23:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:45:00 Jayne Thorburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 16:02:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 19:33:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 11:46:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 13:35:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 13:39:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 15:55:00 James Roy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 16:41:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 16:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:03:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:27:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 18:57:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                          Re:Lawless London30/04/26 21:38:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 23:03:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                Re:Re:Re:Lawless London30/04/26 23:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 08:05:00 Philippa Bond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 09:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 11:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London01/05/26 19:30:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 08:07:00 Janice Evans
                                             Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 11:28:00 Janice Evans
   Re:Lawless London02/05/26 08:15:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 08:40:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 11:00:00 Jayne Thorburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 11:22:00 Janice Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 11:31:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 13:16:00 Jayne Thorburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 14:49:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 20:27:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lawless London02/05/26 22:47:00 Jayne Thorburn
   Re:Lawless London03/05/26 06:17:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Lawless London03/05/26 13:23:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Lawless London03/05/26 15:40:00 Juliet Hogg
      Re:Re:Lawless London03/05/26 13:32:00 Kathleen Healy
         Re:  The State Pension makes up the largest part of the Welfare Bill03/05/26 19:14:00 Philippa Bond
   Re: Osborne's Austerity Increased the Debt - 03/05/26 19:23:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re: Osborne's Austerity Increased the Debt - 03/05/26 21:35:00 Robert Fish
         Re:Fish flakes03/05/26 22:36:00 Davy Jones
            Re:Re:Fish flakes03/05/26 22:45:00 Steve Taylor
               Anti-welfare propaganda 04/05/26 00:58:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 08:22:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 10:27:00 Kathleen Healy
                        Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 10:49:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:15:00 Kathleen Healy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:46:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 11:51:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 14:00:00 Kathleen Healy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 15:16:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 15:49:00 Janice Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 19:08:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 04/05/26 20:40:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 09:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 10:18:00 Janice Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 10:55:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:24:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:38:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 12:50:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                     Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                        Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:00:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:09:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:53:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 15:09:00 Janice Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:43:00 Christopher Shea
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:49:00 Janice Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:36:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:54:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:12:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:12:00 Janice Evans
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:16:00 Janice Evans
                                                                              Re:  People who just want to get richer threaten an exodus05/05/26 17:23:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                 Re:Re:  People who just want to get richer threaten an exodus06/05/26 10:38:00 Janice Evans
                                                            Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 14:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 16:14:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 18:11:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:21:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                               Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:11:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 17:19:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 19:56:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:30:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 05/05/26 22:30:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 08:36:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 09:16:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 09:34:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 11:05:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 11:06:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                    Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 16:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                       Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 06/05/26 19:00:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 16:08:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 19:43:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 20:44:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 07/05/26 22:58:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 00:40:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 09:16:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                            Re:They couldn't be any worse....could they ? 08/05/26 10:56:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 17:03:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 17:30:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 10:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 08/05/26 13:39:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 10:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:02:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:22:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 11:49:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 12:26:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 12:51:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 13:49:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 14:40:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 15:33:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 16:12:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 17:13:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 09/05/26 23:22:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Not propaganda - just fact! 10/05/26 11:56:00 Kathleen Healy

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