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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?
Posted by: Paul Green
Date/Time: 26/06/20 11:41:00

I read an interesting blog on this by Pippa Catterall, history professor from Westminster univeristy. One key point is very relevant and seems to lie at the heart of some of the issues and specifically concerns raised:

'statues represent what people in the past chose to celebrate and memorialise, they do not represent history.'

So removing a statue of a slave trader does not change history in the least. I suspect 90% of the population know more about slave trading and this country's role now than 3 months ago. So actually the act and coverage have taught history...

So statues were not meant to teach history, rather:

'statues in public spaces since Antiquity have most typically been used to represent power and authority'

This is surely blindingly obvioius. Less than 3% of statues in UK are of non-royal women. So why is that, the answer is to think who had the power and money when most of these were erected. Were women absent in our country for last 300 years..?

Also our landscape can and does change, we moved statues in many of the countries we occupied. The Victorians and later removed old statues. Landscapes evolve...

We need to careful of comparing changes now to the fall of the Iron curtain or misinterpreting quotes from 1984. My point in this thread is simple: huge aspects of British history are ignored and not taught or even referenced. Lets address that, actually teach history, acknowledge the good and bad (many commentators on Empire still seem to take a very relaxed view of it as a civilising exercise).


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Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:12:00 Bernard Allen
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:22:00 Ross MacDonald
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:25:00 Bernard Allen
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:27:00 John Whitworth
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:34:00 Bernard Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 20:25:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 20:34:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 22:15:00 Bernard Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 22:42:00 Alex Houseman
                  Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:03:00 John Whitworth
                     Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:07:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:14:00 Bernard Allen
                           Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:23:00 John Whitworth
                        Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:20:00 John Whitworth
                           Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:43:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:57:00 Beryl Wall
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:38:00 Bernard Allen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:53:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:52:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 08:16:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 08:36:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 09:20:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 09:22:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:11:00 Paul Green
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:28:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:28:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:33:00 Paul Green
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 12:03:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 12:37:00 Paul Green
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:20:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:53:00 Justin Stephenson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 14:13:00 Bernard Allen
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:59:00 Peter Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 14:42:00 Paul Green
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:28:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:31:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:51:00 Alastair Banton
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:12:00 Janice Evans
                                                      Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:01:00 Paul Green
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                               Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:06:00 John Whitworth
                                                                  Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:41:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:45:00 John Whitworth
                                                                        Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 18:08:00 Peter Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 18:18:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 19:09:00 James Roy
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 19:15:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 20:15:00 Peter Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 22:12:00 Paul Green
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 22:42:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 23:00:00 Paul Green
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 23:30:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                 Correction24/06/20 23:17:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                    Re:Correction24/06/20 23:40:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                       Re:Correction24/06/20 23:59:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                          Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 00:13:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                             Re:Correction25/06/20 00:22:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                                Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 00:52:00 Beryl Wall
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 06:49:00 James Petri
                                                                                                   Re:Narrowness of history teaching25/06/20 09:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                      Colonial history25/06/20 13:39:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                                                                         Schemes of work25/06/20 14:32:00 Peter Evans
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 14:41:00 Alan Clark
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 15:12:00 Stuart Kerr
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 15:56:00 Alan Clark
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 16:36:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 19:59:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 22:00:00 Alan Clark
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:22:00 Chris Blackwell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:59:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:25:00 Colin Jordan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:29:00 James Carter
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:41:00 Paul Green
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:34:00 Bernard Allen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:40:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:14:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:24:00 Richard Greenhough

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