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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?
Posted by: Paul Green
Date/Time: 24/06/20 11:11:00

A good starting pouint would be for those on the right to stop using the word 'woke'. its just part of the culture war that is already underway in the US and Cummings and the right wing press seem keen to start here.

As for comments like 'did WW1 and WWII not happen', how pathetic and ridiculous.

So when some oaf says are we not allowed to teach history, my response should be absolutely. But who chooses which bits and from what perspective?

Gove's rewriting of the GCSE curriculum, as well as massively increasing pressure on pupils, removed some key American literature that gave some insight into different perspectives and exposure to slavery and racism. This was to favour British authors, but did narrow the viewpoint.

I got as far as University and a non-history subject before I learnt anything of colonialism, specifically in this case the carve up of Africa. I knew basically nothing of the partition of India until reading Midnight's Children, an appalling event that still dominates politics in the region today.

Similarly the darker side of the Empire. The fact is most of the Empire was established and run by private companies, purely and simply for profit, such as the East India Company, with little proactive role for the Crown. This was no great benevolent exercise.

Episodes such as the Jallianwala Bagh massacre of unarmed civilians are certainly not taught, an event that the India govnt still wants a formal apologoy for. Churchill did condemn this, but others in govnt at the time celebrated it and the commanding officer suffered no punishment.

So please, lets teach history, warts and all.


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Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:12:00 Bernard Allen
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:22:00 Ross MacDonald
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:25:00 Bernard Allen
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:27:00 John Whitworth
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 19:34:00 Bernard Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 20:25:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 20:34:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 22:15:00 Bernard Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 22:42:00 Alex Houseman
                  Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:03:00 John Whitworth
                     Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:07:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:14:00 Bernard Allen
                           Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:23:00 John Whitworth
                        Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:20:00 John Whitworth
                           Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:43:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?23/06/20 23:57:00 Beryl Wall
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:38:00 Bernard Allen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:53:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 00:52:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 08:16:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 08:36:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 09:20:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 09:22:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:11:00 Paul Green
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:28:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:28:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 11:33:00 Paul Green
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 12:03:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 12:37:00 Paul Green
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:20:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:53:00 Justin Stephenson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 14:13:00 Bernard Allen
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 13:59:00 Peter Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 14:42:00 Paul Green
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:28:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:31:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:51:00 Alastair Banton
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:12:00 Janice Evans
                                                      Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 15:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:01:00 Paul Green
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 16:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                               Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:06:00 John Whitworth
                                                                  Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:41:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 17:45:00 John Whitworth
                                                                        Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 18:08:00 Peter Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 18:18:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 19:09:00 James Roy
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 19:15:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 20:15:00 Peter Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 22:12:00 Paul Green
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 22:42:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 23:00:00 Paul Green
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?24/06/20 23:30:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                 Correction24/06/20 23:17:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                    Re:Correction24/06/20 23:40:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                       Re:Correction24/06/20 23:59:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                          Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 00:13:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                                             Re:Correction25/06/20 00:22:00 John Whitworth
                                                                                                Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 00:52:00 Beryl Wall
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Correction25/06/20 06:49:00 James Petri
                                                                                                   Re:Narrowness of history teaching25/06/20 09:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                      Colonial history25/06/20 13:39:00 Chris Blackwell
                                                                                                         Schemes of work25/06/20 14:32:00 Peter Evans
   Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 14:41:00 Alan Clark
      Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 15:12:00 Stuart Kerr
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State shools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 15:56:00 Alan Clark
         Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 16:36:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 19:59:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?25/06/20 22:00:00 Alan Clark
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:22:00 Chris Blackwell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 10:59:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:25:00 Colin Jordan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:29:00 James Carter
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:41:00 Paul Green
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:34:00 Bernard Allen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 11:40:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:14:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Are our State schools allowed to teach history?26/06/20 12:24:00 Richard Greenhough

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