| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brexit impass | |
| Posted by: | T P Howell | |
| Date/Time: | 14/03/19 11:10:00 |
| Can someone please explain to me why to vote on a deal (now we know what it is) is undemocratic? That makes no sense. As for Brogan's "bullying" post (is he out again), we already have the measure of the man from his previous posts. Unfortunately (or fortunately) we can't have our cake and eat it. May's "red lines" (No ECJ jurisdiction; no free movement: No substantial financial contribution; Regulatory autonomy: Independent trade policy) means that no deal preserving any meaningful relationship with the EU is possible. But on the other hand, our international legal obligations under the Good Friday agreement means that we cannot have a "hard" border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. So the only other workable solution is for Northern Ireland to remain within the single market (for example within the EEA) and for the "hard border " to be moved into the Irish Sea, so isolating Ireland economically from the rest of the UK. None of this is new. It was all well rehearsed before the referendum. But dismissed as "Project Fear" or "False Facts", or by Brexiteer lies about "cake and eat it" and "one of the easiest deals in history". The rest of the EU were very up front and public about this from the outset, and that they were not going to break up the single market to accommodate the UK little peccadillio. We broke, we have to fix it. I cannot believe that our PM did not get exactly the same advice from the Civil Service. The problem is her disposition of "my way or the high way". There is no point going into negotiations demanding that the other side concede something that they are incapable of delivering. However much she (or Parliament) stamp their feet, it's not going to happen. And as for David Davies (and others on this forum's) promise the they EU "always take it to the wire then back down". No they don't, and now they haven't. Macho negotiations get you nowhere , particularly when you make your position worse by starting the clock ticking against you. |