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Topic: Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?
Posted by: Edward Kent
Date/Time: 24/11/24 17:49:00

I’m really noticing more close shaves at zebra crossings in the last year or so. I have no data to back this up, except my own anecdotal evidence. Anyone else notice a trend?

It’s not just those on the High Road, but these ones feature heavily. I’ll say at the outset that I’m a cyclist, not a driver, or rather, I ride a bike, don’t drive a car.

Taking the bike lane first, bikes haven’t stopped for me, more times than is excusable to be honest. I’m not totally innocent on this front - there has been the very odd occasion when I’ve kept going through a zebra crossing, though this is rare. I now really check both sides of the road for pedestrians about to cross. I think you can also tell as well, when someone has a momentary lapse in awareness, versus people who never intended to stop (rarer) or are cycling at a much lower level of awareness in general (more common). There’s just too many occasions of bikes not stopping, in my view, for these to be explained by momentary lapses. I think it’s rather the case that there are more unaware people on bikes, which I’d put down to the increase in bike sharing programmes, in particular e-bikes like Lime. I’d love for ever increasing numbers of bikes, but I really think people need to have their own bikes, which are suited to their height and weight etc. Most people cannot control Lime bikes sufficiently.

Bikes aren’t even the most worrying flouters of the rules at zebra crossings, that’s cars (and motorbikes). Obviously this is much more dangerous and also much more inexcusable. If bikes aren’t stopping at crossings as much as they used to because of more unfamiliar cyclists on the road, there’s no excuse for cars not stopping. It’s hardly the case that there are more inexperienced drivers on the road. I simply think it’s that people don’t care anymore in cars. They just cruise on through crossings. Just now I was a quarter of the way across CHR and one car just cruises through - something that no longer surprises me. Then, however as I got to half way across, straddling both lanes the car behind it also fails to stop.

Again, these are anecdotes, with no basis in data, but I’d wager heavily that I’m not the only one seeing things getting worse. Also I make it very clear I’m about to cross the road. I never dart out at an angle or approach the road looking down at my phone. I turn 90 degrees to the crossing and look right, left and right again.

Pedestrians are king. Then bikes. Then cars.

Rant over. Just getting really tired of this.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?24/11/24 17:49:00 Edward Kent
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?24/11/24 18:02:00 Mark Frost
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?25/11/24 22:41:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?25/11/24 22:52:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?26/11/24 00:12:00 Peter Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?26/11/24 08:22:00 Steve Taylor
                  Reply27/11/24 10:35:00 Andrew OSullivan
                     Re:Reply28/11/24 00:18:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Reply28/11/24 07:04:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply28/11/24 16:38:00 Peter Evans
                              Reply29/11/24 09:12:00 Andrew OSullivan
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?13/12/24 11:55:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 15:08:00 Charlotte Kasner
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 17:09:00 Richard Atterwill
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 19:30:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 19:38:00 David Burke
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 20:03:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?27/11/24 20:28:00 Russell Pearson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?28/11/24 07:57:00 Steve Taylor
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   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?29/11/24 12:18:00 Diane Brown
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?01/12/24 09:06:00 Felicity Caborn
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?01/12/24 10:41:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?02/12/24 11:27:00 Mark Evans
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               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?02/12/24 13:32:00 Robert Fish
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                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?03/12/24 10:57:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?03/12/24 11:31:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?03/12/24 13:36:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?04/12/24 16:59:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?04/12/24 17:38:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?04/12/24 17:54:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?05/12/24 17:39:00 Diane Brown
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?05/12/24 17:54:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?05/12/24 18:29:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?08/12/24 15:25:00 Philippa Bond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?05/12/24 18:45:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?05/12/24 23:42:00 Paul Campbell
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?08/12/24 10:56:00 Diane Brown
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?08/12/24 11:20:00 Paul Campbell
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?08/12/24 15:44:00 N V Brooks
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 09:08:00 Diane Brown
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 09:46:00 Paul Campbell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 10:29:00 Peter Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 10:48:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                  Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 13:11:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?10/12/24 13:26:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?11/12/24 15:53:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?11/12/24 16:35:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?11/12/24 16:15:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?11/12/24 16:40:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?11/12/24 22:04:00 N V Brooks
   Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 07:17:00 Diane Brown
      Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 07:28:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 07:28:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 07:30:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 07:47:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 11:28:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 17:54:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 18:13:00 Mark Frost
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 18:39:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 18:52:00 Mark Frost
                           Reply13/12/24 18:58:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?13/12/24 22:23:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?14/12/24 06:47:00 Mark Frost
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?14/12/24 10:35:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?14/12/24 10:38:00 Mark Frost
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?14/12/24 10:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?14/12/24 11:00:00 Mark Frost
                                             Reply14/12/24 11:40:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Reply14/12/24 12:19:00 Mark Frost
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?15/12/24 14:26:00 Stewart Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is London suddenly full of cyclists charging at pedestrians?19/12/24 18:45:00 Mark Frost
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?13/12/24 21:14:00 Emma Elizabeth
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 14:39:00 Stewart Jones
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?14/12/24 12:39:00 Tony Mansell
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?14/12/24 18:00:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?14/12/24 20:25:00 Mark Frost
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?14/12/24 20:35:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?14/12/24 21:24:00 Mark Frost
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 00:01:00 David Burke
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 10:35:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 11:46:00 David Burke
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 16:51:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 14:30:00 Stewart Jones
   Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 10:06:00 Stephanie Butters
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 11:35:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 16:56:00 Denis I. Fox
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 17:09:00 Mark Frost
      Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?15/12/24 14:44:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?16/12/24 09:26:00 Diane Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?16/12/24 09:44:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?16/12/24 09:52:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?19/12/24 17:55:00 Diane Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?19/12/24 19:44:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?19/12/24 19:50:00 Mark Frost
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Am I going mad or are zebra crossings getting more dangerous?20/12/24 07:52:00 Paul Campbell
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