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Topic: Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School
Posted by: Stewart Dean
Date/Time: 28/11/10 23:05:00

Here's a report from a friend of mine that was there. Incidentally she's one of the kindest warm hearted people I've ever met. Keep that in mind as you read that.

"What REALLY happened yesterday in Whitehall? A whole generation of london kids got a crash course in protest politics.Yesterday wasn't a great victory for the aims of this political movement - I very much doubt there's a government U-turn coming on this afternoon. But something else did happen, and it's something that's been needed for a while.A good number, maybe half of the people protesting in Whitehall yesterday were underage - sixthformers to skiving thirteen year olds who'd walked out of school, looking for a march, some shouting and maybe to change the world. What they got was a sharp lesson in media manipulation, police thuggery and the politics of protest.

For many it was their first demonstration - and it was a rough one. Cordonned off with no access to food water or toilets for many hours on one of the coldest days of the year, the police were unsympathetic to a level that even surprised me (two portaloos eventually arrived, but you had to fight your way through the crowd for them - similarly a few dozen bottles of water). But instead of anger, the kids were smart and well-behaved. They huddled to keep warm, chanted, danced to drum and bass on a giant sountsystem someone had brought along and even tried to intervene when a few people began attacking That Police Van you'll all have heard about - photos are spreading of schoolgirls encircling the van, making a human shield as even they could understand that it was a photo op for the right wing media. Those kids were brave, and completely understood the situation - the powers than be are willing to use every dirty trick in the book. Later, some of them questioned the police about it - the answers they got are laughable, and they did laugh.

As darkness fell and the cold became worse, bonfires began - eventually about a dozen small ones and one large. Sitting or standing round them, people talked - about what to do next, and about what had happened. All the placards and litter went on the bonfire - after notebook pages and free papers we ran out of things to burn. The soundsystem moved from dubstep to the beatles and T-Rex - has anything ever looked less threatening than a crowd swaying and singing Hey Jude?

As Edd Mustill says in his excellent blog, "An eight-hour kettle gives you plenty of time to think and talk, believe me". He's not kidding. Bits of information, rumours, ideas, spread through the crowd the whole time. Not long after the kettle began, everyone knew that the news was reporting "police are slowly dispersing the protestors" - totally untrue. They knew that as evening drew on an emergency counter-protest was being called for our release - and that the various police were telling different stories about why we were being held in the first place. Everyone knew, for example, that the police were livid about being humiliated at Millbank two weeks ago, and weren't taking any chances today. Some police said we were being held in one place so all the criminal damage (hah) would be focussed in one place instead of spread round the city - we heard that heavy-handed dispersal of a group in trafalgar square (policehorses vs children? Nice) had inspired a couple of broken windows. Some police suggested that the protest was being made as unpleasant as possible to dissuade the kids from doing it again - "if they're going to demonstrate, then we'll give them the real demonstration experience, cold, boring and miserable", a particularly arsey copper told me.

Fundamentally, this is what those young people took away with them. They took away the knowledge that in these situations, the police are agents of the enemy. They are willing to hurt you, they are willing to trick you, and they won't have any compassion. These kids will spread the word to their classmates when they return to school today about freezing cold, thirst, and being shoved about by lines of riot police. About parents who arived at about 6pm, after night fell, pleading for the release of their children. About kids whose parents didn't know who they were, and couldn't get home. These young people are the ones who will have gone home and told their parents that the tv reports are wrong, that the newspapers are lying. With any luck, they'll remember not to believe everything they read, everything they hear.

The idea of putting them off protest has backfired spectacularly. This insulting and inhumane treatment of children, this massive indefensible overreaction, has radicalized and educated a generation of ordinary London youth. Next time they'll be back, with thermoses full of soup, winter coats, and a lot to say. I'm delighted."


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Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 00:00:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 07:19:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 07:56:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:16:00 Bobby Charlton
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:25:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:30:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:35:00 Bobby Charlton
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:47:00 Julian Pavey
            Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:08:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:19:00 Bobby Charlton
                  Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:24:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:29:00 Bobby Charlton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:31:00 Emma Thatcher
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:34:00 Bobby Charlton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:57:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 10:00:00 Bobby Charlton
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:01:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:45:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 26/11/10 18:12:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 26/11/10 20:07:00 Carrie Richards
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 28/11/10 23:05:00 Stephen Moore
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:16:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:03:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:16:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:18:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:51:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:12:00 Emma Thatcher
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:14:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:32:00 Emma Thatcher
                  Re:Collapse of Irish Economy predicted in 1998 25/11/10 11:23:00 Carrie Richards
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:17:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:33:00 Iain Muir
            Re:One protest from yesterday you wont see on the mainstream news...25/11/10 12:48:00 Carrie Richards
               ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..25/11/10 22:57:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 15:21:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:02:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:29:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:38:00 Carrie Richards
                        Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:56:00 C Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:06:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:12:00 C Wynne
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:52:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 11:32:00 Carrie Richards
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 11:33:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 14:29:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 18:30:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 18:38:00 Guy Lambert
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:18:00 Carrie Richards
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:37:00 Carrie Richards
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:45:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:34:00 C Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:50:00 Carrie Richards
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:01:00 Will Watson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:25:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..05/12/10 16:40:00 William Beausire
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:09:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 28/11/10 23:05:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 29/11/10 00:58:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 29/11/10 08:56:00 Mary OConnor
            ReGet ready - student protest tomorrow - support out youth. 29/11/10 11:37:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 30/11/10 16:50:00 Ann Clark
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 07:33:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 07:58:00 Carrie Richards
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 08:04:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 08:16:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 10:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 12:23:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 12:48:00 Nick Jenkins
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:08:00 Stewart Dean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:44:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:56:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 14:23:00 Carrie Richards
                                 Re:Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 14:57:00 Nick Jenkins
                                    Re:Re:Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 15:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 17:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 22:22:00 Carrie Richards
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 23:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:09:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:44:00 Keith Iddon
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:51:00 Robin Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:55:00 Keith Iddon
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:29:00 Carrie Richards
                        Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:00:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 14:55:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:48:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 14:55:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Councillor01/12/10 14:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:08:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:16:00 Carrie Richards
   New site for anyone concerned about the cuts...01/12/10 14:48:00 Malcolm Peltu
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            Re:Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....04/12/10 15:52:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 09:16:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 11:20:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 16:05:00 Madeleine Hazard
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      Re:The pushy parents of modern-day radicalism05/12/10 17:01:00 Carrie Richards
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               Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 19:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re; Students being pushed into being active by pushy parents. 05/12/10 21:55:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 23:50:00 Robin Taylor
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                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #106/12/10 11:47:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Why you support the students...05/12/10 19:17:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Why you support the students...06/12/10 11:00:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...08/12/10 10:08:00 Carrie Richards
               ReDont pay the banks Ireland...08/12/10 10:57:00 Carrie Richards
                  Myths and facts on Tuition Fees08/12/10 18:50:00 Steve Taylor
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                        Geography Lesson #309/12/10 09:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 10:17:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 10:41:00 Carrie Richards
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                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 12:54:00 Robin Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 13:34:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 14:01:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 14:52:00 Robin Taylor
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                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #310/12/10 08:15:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...09/12/10 13:51:00 Alan Clark
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      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 17:46:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 18:28:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 20:48:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 21:10:00 Manria Kaur
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 10/12/10 09:09:00 Richard Greenhough
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