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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..
Posted by: Carrie Richards
Date/Time: 28/11/10 11:33:00

"Conspiracy theory was originally a neutral descriptor for any claim of civil, criminal, or political conspiracy. However, it has become largely pejorative and used almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning"

The Banks abiltiy to make money from nothing, has caused the world debt problem. It is not a conspiracy theory , it is fact. The Federal Reserve is a private company that sells its money to the USA government...with interest. You cannot borrow your way out of debt, esp if they keeping adding interest to your original debt. You really do need to understand why this gov is going to smash the poor and needy and to come up with alternatives. This is not fuzzy thinking.
For those interested...this is a solution to the debts...
http://www.bankofenglandact.co.uk/
What’s The Problem?
When money is created by the state, it is added to government revenue and reduces the amount of taxes that businesses and families need to pay. However, most money now is no longer created by the state. Instead, thanks to the rules governing banking, money is created by commercial, profit-seeking banks every time they issue a loan or mortgage. Rather than going to reduce the taxes that we have to pay, it is used to generate huge profits for the banking sector, all whilst indebting UK households and businesses and sowing the seeds of the next financial crisis. This system effectively provides a subsidy to the banking sector of up to £100billion each year – a subsidy that, one way or another, comes out of your pocket.

Allowing commercial banks to create money also makes the economy hugely unstable. Each time a bank makes a loan, it actually creates new money to fund new loans. The more the banks lend, the more money they have available to lend, but as soon as they stop lending, the economy is starved of new money and quickly goes from growth to contraction, causing unnecessary hardship to millions of people .

This process – the creation of money by commercial banks – was the real root of the financial crisis, and if we allow banks to continue creating the nation’s money, then we will soon be facing a crisis even more severe than the last.

What’s The Solution?
We propose that the solution to the current financial crisis is to:

•prevent banks from creating the nation’s money supply (through a few small changes to the rules governing bank accounts)
•restore the right to create the nation’s money to a public agency of the state (the Bank of England under the direction of the Monetary Policy Committee, all under strict controls, transparency and separation of powers)
•use any newly created money to reduce taxes, fund better public services and/or reduce the national debt. (This is in direct contrast to the current situation, where three quarters of newly-created money created is pumped straight into the housing or commercial property market)
•as the economy stabilizes and the debt-burden falls, gradually synchronise the increase in the money supply to increases in productive capacity and population
•banks would continue to lend, but would do so as intermediaries between real savers and borrowers
These simple changes will withdraw the hidden subsidy that the banking sector has enjoyed for the last few hundred years and remove the taxpayer’s exposure to failure in the banking sector. The banking sector will then need to generate profits by playing a significant role in the creation of wealth, rather than simply extracting wealth from the rest of the economy by charging interest on 97.5% of the money in existence.

The benefits to the wider economy, businesses and families of the UK far outweigh the costs to the banking sector.

What’s Our Angle?
This is not a left-wing or right-wing proposal. By removing the banks’ ability to create the UK’s money supply as debt, we:

•remove a huge hidden subsidy to the banking sector, removing distortions in the economy and restoring the free market to banking
•ensure that we can allow banks to fail and go bankrupt without bringing down the whole system, once again forcing banks to operate in a free market (for the first time)
•remove the need for society to pay interest on 97.5% of the money in existence – as this interest costs feeds into the cost of everything from housing to transport, this would help the poor immensely
•allow any newly-created money to be used for the widest benefit, whether through reducing taxation or increase public spending, improving democratic control over the shape of the economy
•remove the instability created by the banks’ creation of money as debt, reducing the severity of boom and bust cycles, therefore helping businesses and workers
This is not an ideological reform – it’s just common sense.


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Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 00:00:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 07:19:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 07:56:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:16:00 Bobby Charlton
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:25:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:30:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:35:00 Bobby Charlton
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 08:47:00 Julian Pavey
            Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:08:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:19:00 Bobby Charlton
                  Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:24:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:29:00 Bobby Charlton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:31:00 Emma Thatcher
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:34:00 Bobby Charlton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 09:57:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re; Mass demostration.25/11/10 10:00:00 Bobby Charlton
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:01:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:45:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 26/11/10 18:12:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 26/11/10 20:07:00 Carrie Richards
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 28/11/10 23:05:00 Stephen Moore
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:16:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:03:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:16:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:18:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:51:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:12:00 Emma Thatcher
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:14:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 11:32:00 Emma Thatcher
                  Re:Collapse of Irish Economy predicted in 1998 25/11/10 11:23:00 Carrie Richards
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:17:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 25/11/10 10:33:00 Iain Muir
            Re:One protest from yesterday you wont see on the mainstream news...25/11/10 12:48:00 Carrie Richards
               ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..25/11/10 22:57:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 15:21:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:02:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:29:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:38:00 Carrie Richards
                        Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 18:56:00 C Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:06:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:12:00 C Wynne
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..27/11/10 19:52:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 11:32:00 Carrie Richards
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 11:33:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 14:29:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 18:30:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 18:38:00 Guy Lambert
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:18:00 Carrie Richards
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:37:00 Carrie Richards
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:45:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:34:00 C Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 21:50:00 Carrie Richards
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:01:00 Will Watson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:25:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..05/12/10 16:40:00 William Beausire
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReWhat the march was really like - from the inside..28/11/10 22:09:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 28/11/10 23:05:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 29/11/10 00:58:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 29/11/10 08:56:00 Mary OConnor
            ReGet ready - student protest tomorrow - support out youth. 29/11/10 11:37:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 30/11/10 16:50:00 Ann Clark
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 07:33:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 07:58:00 Carrie Richards
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 08:04:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 01/12/10 08:16:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 10:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 12:23:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 12:48:00 Nick Jenkins
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:08:00 Stewart Dean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:44:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:56:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 14:23:00 Carrie Richards
                                 Re:Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 14:57:00 Nick Jenkins
                                    Re:Re:Re: This is the future.....01/12/10 15:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 17:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 22:22:00 Carrie Richards
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations12/12/10 23:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:09:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:44:00 Keith Iddon
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:51:00 Robin Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:55:00 Keith Iddon
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Mass demonstrations13/12/10 00:29:00 Carrie Richards
                        Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 13:00:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 14:55:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:48:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 14:55:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Councillor01/12/10 14:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:08:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Councillor01/12/10 15:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson 01/12/10 15:16:00 Carrie Richards
   New site for anyone concerned about the cuts...01/12/10 14:48:00 Malcolm Peltu
      Re:New site for anyone concerned about the cuts...01/12/10 14:58:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Police Vs Protesters Benny Hill Style!01/12/10 19:40:00 Carrie Richards
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 02/12/10 10:35:00 Mark Evans
      Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....04/12/10 10:59:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....04/12/10 13:44:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....04/12/10 15:52:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 09:16:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 11:20:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:Cameron reacts to students protests....05/12/10 16:05:00 Madeleine Hazard
   The pushy parents of modern-day radicalism04/12/10 22:56:00 Monica Devlin
      Re:The pushy parents of modern-day radicalism05/12/10 17:01:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 18:05:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 18:37:00 Robin Taylor
            Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 19:05:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 19:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re; Students being pushed into being active by pushy parents. 05/12/10 21:55:00 Carrie Richards
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #105/12/10 23:50:00 Robin Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #106/12/10 10:13:00 Dan Murphy
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #106/12/10 10:22:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #106/12/10 11:08:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #2 & English Language Lesson #106/12/10 11:47:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Why you support the students...05/12/10 19:17:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re:Why you support the students...06/12/10 11:00:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...08/12/10 10:08:00 Carrie Richards
               ReDont pay the banks Ireland...08/12/10 10:57:00 Carrie Richards
                  Myths and facts on Tuition Fees08/12/10 18:50:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Myths and facts on Tuition Fees09/12/10 09:16:00 Francis Rowe
                        Geography Lesson #309/12/10 09:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 10:17:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 10:41:00 Carrie Richards
                                 Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 12:16:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 12:54:00 Robin Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 13:34:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 14:01:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 14:52:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #309/12/10 15:36:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Geography Lesson #310/12/10 08:15:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...09/12/10 13:51:00 Alan Clark
                  Re:Re:Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...09/12/10 15:09:00 Anya Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...09/12/10 16:54:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:The False Economy...brought to you by all Governments...09/12/10 17:08:00 Will Watson
   Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 17:08:00 Paul Hazeltine
      Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 17:46:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 18:28:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 20:48:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 09/12/10 21:10:00 Manria Kaur
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 10/12/10 09:09:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mass walk out by students at Chiswick Community School 10/12/10 12:43:00 Sam Hearn Cllr

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