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Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 22/01/26 11:04:00

Aren't you one of Francis's mates Andrew?

You can see a 2018 Google Streetview image below from the location where there was a cycling fatality.  Francis ignored this because he said it wasn't on the bridge.  As far as he was concerned, it didn't matter.

I know you are trying to do spin doctoring for your mate, but he didn't say "some cyclists may prefer the bridge to reopen", he said "a large proportion of cyclists [] will see having to share with vehicles rather than pedestrians as a positive

Of course, this is classic Francis Rowe bollocks pulling opinions from his posterior with no evidence whatsoever.

He certainly hasn't demonstrated crossing the bridge was "risk free". It really is perverse of you to claim prior to the bridge closing to motor traffic, a stretch of road where there was a fatality and multiple serious and minor casualties was "risk free".  

A comprehensive analysis of casualties for the bridge and approach roads would consider the numbers of people cycling as by definition, "risk" considers the likelihood of danger.  Casualties can go up but the risk can go down if the number of people cycling has increased by more than casualties.

  On Chiswick High Rd for example, since C9 was completed in Jan 2023, the number of cyclist casualties has decreased while numbers cycling have increased so there is no doubt about the reduced risk.

I don't have    counts for cyclists using the bridge since the closure to motor traffic, so won't make claims about risk, unlike you and your mate.



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FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 08:27:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 10:42:00 Paul James
      Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 10:47:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 11:09:00 Paul Scullion
         Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 11:53:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 12:15:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 12:41:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 13:37:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 16:48:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 16:55:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 17:00:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 17:18:00 Julian Pavey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 20:46:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 21:02:00 Julian Pavey
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 10:07:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 18:08:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 18:51:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 20:44:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 21:43:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 21:58:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge13/01/26 22:06:00 Janice Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 06:47:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge: built to carry horse drawn carriages14/01/26 07:08:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge: built to carry horse drawn carriages14/01/26 08:43:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge: built to carry horse drawn carriages14/01/26 09:28:00 Philippa Bond
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge: built to carry horse drawn carriages14/01/26 12:44:00 David Lesniak
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge: built to carry horse drawn carriages14/01/26 13:45:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 09:50:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 10:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 10:50:00 Paul James
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:35:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 14:42:00 Mark Evans
               The bridge should be easily mended12/02/26 10:38:00 Davey Harris
   Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:19:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:26:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:28:00 Paul James
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:39:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 11:42:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 12:50:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 13:19:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 14:19:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge14/01/26 19:15:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 07:57:00 Mark Frost
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 08:40:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 09:03:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 09:44:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 09:45:00 Paul James
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 09:59:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 10:24:00 Francis Rowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 10:31:00 Paul James
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 10:48:00 Paul James
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 10:56:00 Simon Hayes
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 11:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 12:12:00 Neil Roberts
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 14:50:00 Francis Rowe
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 14:54:00 Paul James
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 17:30:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 12:16:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 12:31:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge15/01/26 15:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 08:42:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 09:34:00 Paul James
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 09:42:00 Paul James
                                                         Reply19/01/26 09:46:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 09:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 09:48:00 Paul James
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge19/01/26 16:52:00 Steve Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge20/01/26 09:28:00 Francis Rowe
                                                               Reply20/01/26 09:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Reply20/01/26 12:44:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                     Re:Re:Reply20/01/26 13:01:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Reply20/01/26 17:28:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Reply20/01/26 18:57:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re: Task Force needs to do its job20/01/26 21:47:00 Davy Jones
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 08:05:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                           Reply21/01/26 09:00:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                              Re:Reply21/01/26 09:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Reply22/01/26 11:35:00 Tom Pike
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 09:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 10:33:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 11:47:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 10:38:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 12:19:00 Paul James
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 12:53:00 Mark Frost
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 13:49:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 08:12:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Reply22/01/26 09:09:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                                                Reply22/01/26 11:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Reply22/01/26 09:09:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 16:59:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 17:03:00 Mark Frost
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 16:56:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/01/26 19:37:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 01:01:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 07:18:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 07:42:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 10:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/01/26 10:36:00 Andrew Jones
   Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....it's a sad world.23/01/26 10:46:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....it's a sad world.23/01/26 10:49:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....it's a sad world.23/01/26 13:20:00 Adrian Irving
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!09/02/26 18:02:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!09/02/26 20:34:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!09/02/26 21:15:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!10/02/26 10:16:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!10/02/26 11:11:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!10/02/26 15:16:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!11/02/26 08:47:00 Mark Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!11/02/26 09:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....Now Albert Bridge!11/02/26 16:18:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge ....it's a sad world.10/02/26 11:21:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:FYI. Hammersmith Bridge10/02/26 11:27:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge17/02/26 15:57:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge17/02/26 16:53:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge18/02/26 08:44:00 Mark Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge18/02/26 09:36:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge18/02/26 09:52:00 Mark Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge18/02/26 20:19:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge20/02/26 15:28:00 Lucy Chambers
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Hammersmith Bridge - positive news 28/02/26 16:45:00 Steve Taylor
                           Reply03/03/26 15:14:00 Andrew OSullivan

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