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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge
Posted by: Mark Evans
Date/Time: 01/07/25 09:02:00

This is surprising because I would have expected you to have expertise across the range of all kinds of stupid.

The issue that Andrew raises comes down to the way that the government assesses infrastructure and transport projects in terms of cost benefit. This tends to bias spending towards areas which already have had a lot of investment - for instance Crossrail was completed because it bolted on to an existing transport network and was guaranteed to have a high level of use from day one.

Proposals to make investment outside of London didn't meet these tests as well because if you build or upgrade a rail lines, you don't have a densely populated area and other lines feeding into it to ensure high usage.

The cost benefit analysis done on Hammersmith Bridge looks very positive and will probably be far better that other schemes competing for the money. However, there is growing recognition that the skewed nature of government investment has left our economy chronically unbalanced and limited its growth potential.

It may be that the solution for Hammersmith Bridge is that a toll and contributions from the council and TfL reduce the amount needed from the central fund but it seems to me highly unlikely that the government would decide to put half of the initial tranche towards one project in London.


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Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 14:32:00 Andrew OSullivan
   Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 14:58:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 15:36:00 Justin Stephenson
         Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 16:00:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge26/01/25 09:23:00 CE Combes
         Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 16:12:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 17:07:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 18:23:00 Andrew Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 19:40:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 21:47:00 Andrew Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 21:58:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 22:16:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 22:21:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge23/01/25 23:05:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Reply24/01/25 08:13:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                       Re:Reply24/01/25 09:15:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Reply24/01/25 20:07:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Reply26/01/25 15:39:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re: Never say never17/06/25 15:35:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Reply17/06/25 16:06:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                Re:Reply17/06/25 19:17:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Reply18/06/25 09:49:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                      Re:Reply18/06/25 10:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Reply19/06/25 09:21:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                            Re:Reply19/06/25 10:10:00 Michael Robinson
                                                               Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 14:00:00 Andrew Jones
                                                      Re:Reply19/06/25 13:37:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 15:24:00 Peter Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 15:52:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 16:48:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 17:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 22:28:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/25 08:29:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/25 09:11:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/25 15:55:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 10:26:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 12:54:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 13:05:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 13:16:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 13:34:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 14:14:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/06/25 09:19:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/06/25 09:49:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/06/25 16:27:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/06/25 18:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/06/25 19:12:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 09:22:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 11:54:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 15:08:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 15:49:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/06/25 09:21:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/06/25 12:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/06/25 17:09:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 09:59:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 16:56:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 17:54:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 18:37:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/06/25 20:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 17:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/25 20:04:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/25 15:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/25 17:23:00 Tom Pike
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 17:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/06/25 15:38:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                              Reply21/06/25 17:55:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Reply22/06/25 09:58:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 14:13:00 Davey Harris
         Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 14:42:00 Peter Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 15:20:00 David Burke
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 19:00:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 19:45:00 Andrew Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge24/06/25 21:56:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge30/06/25 14:46:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge30/06/25 15:41:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge30/06/25 18:46:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge30/06/25 20:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 09:02:00 Mark Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 09:08:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 09:37:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 09:49:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 10:00:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 10:33:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 10:48:00 Andrew Jones
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 10:52:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 12:21:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 11:49:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 12:36:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 12:50:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge02/07/25 12:03:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge02/07/25 16:46:00 Steve Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge02/07/25 22:24:00 Michael Robinson
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                                             Re:Expectations being managed on Hammersmith Bridge01/07/25 10:33:00 Philippa Bond
                                                Re:Re:  The importance of London’s bridges! 03/07/25 09:39:00 Steve Taylor

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