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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)
Posted by: Joe Conneely
Date/Time: 04/10/13 09:40:00

Per Wikipedia articles other countries that have followed Portugal's example are Spain, Italy and Czech Republic in Europe, with Norway proposing but not yet implementing (Norway's proposals are heroin related making it a more sensitive issue).The Netherlands has got there for marijuana by non-enforcement as upheld by the Courts when cases for possession have been bought by the police. 

In North America, certain US states have relaxed and gone against federal laws and a heavy debate has been going on in Canada for some years. Many Latin American countries have been more forceful given the devastation drugs have made across their economies in liberalising drug usage.

It should be noted that all these regimes are tackling possession on the drugs for personal use with amounts sometimes specified - possession for selling remains an offence, and some only apply to soft drugs (marijuana) versus hard drugs (heroin and cocaine). The decriminalisation for possession for private use and improving support for addicts in all these cases do not from cases I have read about move to a model where the state seeks to legalise and obtain tax revenues from sales of drugs, but have largely been addressing drug epidemics and HIV/overdose fatalities increases in those societies.

The costs of drug abuse are also much deeper in assessing the economic arguments - criminalisation and penal detention costs, related crime especially gangs and guns, the deeper effect on certain sectors of society (especially in inner city areas where poverty already exists); and the "winners" who have seen growth and profit from historic policies (both criminals with money laundering and government agencies set up to counter). One of the best books in showing how deep these scars and effects can run is on the Mexican drug wars and the US responses (El Narco by Ioan Grillo - ironically a Welsh journalist working for a Houston newspaper in Mexico!)


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Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 12:48:00 Andy Pease
   Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 13:00:00 Pete Mayes
      Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 14:17:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 14:33:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 14:55:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 15:00:00 Tom Forde
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 15:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 16:05:00 bobby osborne
         Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?29/09/13 20:14:00 Colin Potter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 10:22:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 11:16:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 11:27:00 Tom Forde
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 12:11:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 12:13:00 Tom Forde
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 14:55:00 Pete Mayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 15:14:00 Tom Forde
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 17:39:00 Vanessa Smith
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 17:41:00 Pete Mayes
   Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?30/09/13 18:02:00 Tom Forde
      Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 10:07:00 Alastair Banton
         Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 10:41:00 John Hickman
   Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 11:39:00 Alastair Banton
      Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 11:59:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 12:36:00 Tom Forde
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 13:27:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 13:58:00 Tom Forde
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 14:48:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 15:02:00 Tom Forde
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 15:21:00 Jonathan Bingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 15:31:00 Tom Forde
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:07:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:15:00 Tom Forde
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:17:00 Will Watson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:19:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:21:00 Tom Forde
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:23:00 Tom Forde
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:30:00 Will Watson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?01/10/13 16:37:00 Tom Forde
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 09:32:00 Alastair Banton
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 10:36:00 Tom Forde
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 10:41:00 Andy Pease
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 10:51:00 Tom Forde
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 15:46:00 Andy Pease
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 11:05:00 John Hickman
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 11:15:00 Tom Forde
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 11:34:00 John Hickman
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 13:52:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 14:02:00 Tom Forde
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 15:44:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 15:53:00 Andy Pease
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 15:56:00 Tom Forde
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 16:50:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Time for a re-think on drugs law ?02/10/13 17:10:00 Tom Forde
                                                                  Will's question (again)03/10/13 10:33:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:23:00 Tom Forde
                                                                        Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:38:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:31:00 Will Watson
                                                                        Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:37:00 Tom Forde
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:39:00 Will Watson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:45:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:50:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:55:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:58:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 11:59:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:01:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:05:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:16:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:21:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:21:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:23:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:24:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:45:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:49:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:51:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:54:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 13:01:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:55:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 12:59:00 Tom Forde
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 22:00:00 Colin Potter
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 22:20:00 Colin Potter
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)03/10/13 22:44:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)04/10/13 09:40:00 Joe Conneely
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will's question (again)04/10/13 10:10:00 Alastair Banton

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