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Topic: Re:For Richard
Posted by: Carrie Reichardt
Date/Time: 01/05/11 23:56:00

Here is a text that I think kind of neatly sums my view of the royal wedding....


"I tried my best to ignore the “Royal Wedding”, but unless you happen to be a member of one of those lost tribes of the Amazon jungle, the chances of getting through yesterday without being subjected to at least some of the nauseating hype were pretty slim. So if you’re feeling a little irked by being forced in this way to participate in the proceedings, you may be either cheered or further distressed to know that the notion that yesterday’s extreme pomp, circumstance and massive monetary waste were in any way ‘Royal’ is absolute bollocks, as Craig Murray pointed out:


“The monarchy makes no sense even on its own logic. It is impossible that the putative William V is the most entitled direct descendant of William the Conqueror (who bumped off the one and only actually English King of all England, Harrold Godwinson). Just to mention a single example of scores, it appears that Edward IV’s father, Richard of York, was at no time in the same country as his mother during the possible conception period. And yes, the current lineage’s claim to succession would fall on that point.

Even if you accept that for the Tudors to kill off the Yorkists was a reasonable grounds of entitlement, or for the Stuarts to be excluded on grounds of religion is not a problem, the many infidelities over the centuries make the mystic idea of a bloodline absolute bollocks”

The sad truth is that yesterday’s spectacle was nothing more than a modern day version of bread and circuses, a gross distraction from the degenerate state of our society and a chance for all the ‘authoritarian followers’ in England and around the world in the Imperial “Commonwealth” to get together and prove to the rest of us that we’re still living in the social and evolutionary dark ages. That so many English people willingly (indeed, joyfully) played the part of ignorant peasants to the ‘divinely ordained’ yet systemically corrupt British royalty and aristocracy was actually frightening to me.

In social, political  and personal psychology such modern-day peasants are known as ‘Right Wing Authoritarian followers’, people who have a high degree of submissiveness to authorities that are perceived to be legitimate. Note that it is only authorities that are perceived to be legitimate, they need not be truly just, and history shows that, almost invariably, such authorities are neither. Another endearing trait of these Right Wing Authoritarian types is a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, out-groups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to the established authorities. Basically we are talking about people who have little to no ability to think for themselves on macro-social issues and who rely almost entirely on authority figures for their understanding of social mores. If a truly benevolent leader were to hold power, things would work out well, but the effects of such a large percentage of authoritarian followers (globally we’re talking 50%) in a world dominated by Pathocracies are negative to put it mildly. Think Nazi Germany, the British Empire and the USA post 9/11, to name but three examples. The pages of history are replete with others.

Any chance that I, personally, had of remaining unmoved by the farcical ‘Royal’ proceedings was ruined when I read that big Willie would wear the uniform of the ‘Irish Guards’ (known as ‘Micks’ – a derogatory English term for the Irish). Many inane media pundits applauded this choice of attire as a ‘hat tip’ to the Irish people in advance of Lizzie the second’s visit to Ireland next month. But only an ass, entirely ignorant of history, could come to such a conclusion. For the military of one sovereign nation to have a regiment that employs the name of another sovereign nation or people is strange enough, but when we consider the history of England and Ireland and the former’s long-term occupation and genocidal involvement in the affairs of the latter, Willy’s choice of the ‘Irish Guards’ uniform simply confirms that imperialism, racism and sectarianism continue to form the life-blood that nourishes the thinking and attitudes of those unfortunate enough to number themselves amongst the fetid British establishment.

As for Lizzie giving William the title of Baron Carrickfergus as a wedding gift; what ‘Royal wedding’ could be complete without a little sharing out of imperial plunder.


For the whole article go here.
http://joequinn.net/2011/05/01/imperialism-big-willy-style/


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Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 13:50:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 14:17:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 14:31:00 Michael Brown
         Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 16:11:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 15:33:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 16:09:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 17:27:00 Carrie Reichardt
         Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 18:09:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 18:54:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 00:43:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 13:33:00 Andrew Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 19:00:00 Jennifer Selig
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 19:18:00 Susan Kelly
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:42:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 13:35:00 Susan Kelly
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding02/05/11 07:22:00 Stewart Dean
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding02/05/11 08:42:00 Susan Kelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:36:00 Philip Walsh
   Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding30/04/11 21:25:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 00:45:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 08:18:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 10:34:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 11:32:00 Ammie El-Atar Whaley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 11:50:00 Philip Walsh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:00:00 Fred Bray
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:27:00 Philip Walsh
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 20:37:00 Carrie Reichardt
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:19:00 Susan Kelly
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding01/05/11 12:31:00 Philip Walsh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 12:53:00 Philip Walsh
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 15:28:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 16:07:00 Philip Walsh
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 20:41:00 Jen Morty
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 20:44:00 Carrie Reichardt
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 21:28:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 23:03:00 Carrie Reichardt
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 21:45:00 Richard Jennings
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 23:05:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 23:53:00 Jennifer Selig
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested02/05/11 00:43:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested01/05/11 23:46:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested02/05/11 07:07:00 Stewart Dean
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested02/05/11 11:39:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested03/05/11 09:45:00 Stewart Dean
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested03/05/11 12:33:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boo for the Royal Wedding this post could have got you arrested03/05/11 14:41:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:For Richard01/05/11 23:56:00 Carrie Reichardt
                                    Re:Re:For Richard02/05/11 01:13:00 Richard Jennings
                                       Re:Re:Re:For Richard02/05/11 02:21:00 Philip Walsh
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 12:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 12:55:00 Philip Walsh
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 13:42:00 bobby osborne
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 15:31:00 Stewart Dean
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 15:58:00 bobby osborne
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 07:35:00 Stewart Dean
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 13:50:00 bobby osborne
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 14:50:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 15:06:00 bobby osborne
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 15:20:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 16:05:00 bobby osborne
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 18:18:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 18:41:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart03/05/11 19:40:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart04/05/11 11:09:00 Stewart Dean
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 18:22:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 19:08:00 Martin Whaley
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Stewart02/05/11 20:03:00 Susan Kelly
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:For Richard02/05/11 17:03:00 Richard Jennings
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Richard02/05/11 18:35:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Nerded bliss!02/05/11 20:05:00 bobby osborne
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Nerded bliss!02/05/11 23:13:00 Marek Wakar
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Nerded bliss!03/05/11 00:23:00 bobby osborne
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Nerded bliss!03/05/11 00:27:00 Will Watson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Richard03/05/11 10:37:00 Philip Walsh
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Richard03/05/11 14:59:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Let the Royals stand for President03/05/11 16:20:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                      Re:Let the Royals stand for President03/05/11 17:39:00 Susan Kelly
   What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 17:48:00 Robert Fish
      Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 19:43:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 20:40:00 Susan Kelly
            Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 20:48:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 20:44:00 Robert Fish
            Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?03/05/11 20:57:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 08:01:00 Susan Kelly
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 08:31:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 10:38:00 Roger Talbot
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 10:48:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 11:11:00 Malcolm Peltu
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 11:38:00 Robert Fish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 11:56:00 Philip Walsh
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                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 12:26:00 David Roberts
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 12:29:00 Stewart Dean
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 12:40:00 bobby osborne
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 12:51:00 Philip Walsh
            Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 13:20:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 14:15:00 Malcolm Peltu
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 14:29:00 Philip Walsh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What about the exclusion of Blair and Brown?04/05/11 18:30:00 Steve Taylor

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