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Topic: PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick
Posted by: Dave Elmer
Date/Time: 11/11/11 16:51:00

O‘It’s gold, it’s crass, it’s out of place’.

Octopus Alive and Threatening
Chiswick!




‘It’s gold, it’s crass, it’s out of place’.



How can Hounslow Council’s Sustainable Development Committee
justify a decision that not only flies in the face of current policy but that
would also undermine its emerging vision for the future?


 


The West Chiswick and
Gunnersbury Society has written to Hounslow Council concerning the decision
reached by the Sustainable Development Committee (SDC) on Thursday 27 October
2011 with respect to the proposed development on land at Chiswick Roundabout at
the Junction of Gunnersbury Avenue and Great West Road (the development dubbed
the “Octopus”)





http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info&page=conplan045.htm


 


 


WCGS believes that the
decision is contrary to the Council’s own planning policies, those of the London
Plan and national planning statements. As far as the future is concerned, the
London Borough of Hounslow’s Preferred Core Strategy (the subject of recent
consultation) includes objectives relating to the promotion of local character,
reducing carbon emissions, promoting and improving green spaces and heritage
assets.


 



The Society believes that, if the development is allowed to be
built, it will have a severe negative impact on the quality of life of local
residents (in terms of well-being, environment, amenity, local character and
sense of place) and on the neighbouring heritage assets and green spaces of
Gunnersbury Park and Gunnersbury Cemetery. WCGS is supporting the current
regeneration project for Gunnersbury Park being managed jointly by the London
Boroughs of Hounslow and Ealing. One of our committee members, Marie Rabouhans,
met in Parliament recently with local MP Mary Macleod and Angie Bray, MP for
Ealing who endorsed the efforts of the groups involved .



http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info&spage=common/congunnsprk033.htm



 How will the “Octopus”, a massive, permanently-lit, alien
intrusion pay respect to our heritage or enhance our enjoyment of this beautiful
green space?



The power generation system for the development will add to air
pollution (by



 increasing nitrogen dioxide levels). This part of London already
has “shokingly” low air quality.



http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info&page=eair007.htm



Siting such an unsustainable, energy-demanding, permanently lit
construction in this prominent location will seriously damage the reputation and
green credentials not only of Hounslow and London but of the UK more generally.
Over 40% of the energy needed to run the building will be for the LED lights of
the media screens and the rest of the shroud.



 What message will this give? According to Kim Gottlieb, managing
director of London and Bath Estates ‘It’s bold it’s brash it’s in your face’.



http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/west-london-news/local-hounslow-news/2011/10/28/octopus-building-at-chiswick-roundabout-gets-green-light-109642-29680564/



Another interpretation might be ‘It’s gold, it’s crass, it’s out of place’. The
Society is adamant that neither of these messages is one we wish to communicate
about London in

 


 


Copy of article from the Hounslow Chronicle - Voice your concerns


Gunnersbury rail station 'unsafe' say residents







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WORRIED members of a residents' group have branded a busy rail and Tube station as 'unsafe' and warn that, without improvements, there is a disaster waiting to happen.


The West Chiswick and Gunnersbury Society (WCGS) is campaigning for changes to be made at Gunnersbury station, in Chiswick High Road, after an increase in the number of passengers since Chiswick Business Park opened in 2001.


Terry Thorn, WCGS chairman, said: "Until 10 years ago, the station was quite quiet. Then the business park opened and now 5,000 to 6,000 people work there and the levels of passengers using the station are well beyond its capacity.


"The platform is quite narrow and it is difficult to get up and down the stairs during rush hour. Someone is going to get pushed on to the track one day - it is just a disaster waiting to happen."









The group wants changes to be made, including a lift to help elderly people or those with children, and a new entrance on Wellesley Road to ease flow. It believes that, despite limited funding, passenger safety should take priority.


Mr Thorn added: "The section 106 money the business park gave to the council when they started their development could be used. Some improvements were made and more are promised, but these do not address the fundamental problem, which is that the station is now unsafe.


"We are lobbying our MP and our councillors to that effect. We do not want to be in the position of saying 'we told you so' in the event of an accident."


Copy of our Submisssion:


















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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout16/11/09 12:15:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout16/11/09 13:47:00 Dave Elmer
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                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout16/11/09 16:08:00 Robert Billington
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout16/11/09 19:27:00 Richard Jennings
                           photo on our website17/11/09 08:28:00 Dave Elmer
                              any comments on the picture - what do you think? (n/m)17/11/09 13:35:00 Dave Elmer
                                 It looks like my six year old did some origami 17/11/09 15:32:00 Karen Adams
                                    Re:It looks like my six year old did some origami 17/11/09 15:37:00 Chris Calvi-Freeman
                                       Re:Re:It looks like my six year old did some origami 17/11/09 16:40:00 Adam Beamish
                                       Re:Re:It looks like my six year old did some origami 17/11/09 17:01:00 Philip Walsh
                                          Re:Re:Re:It looks like my six year old did some origami 17/11/09 18:03:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 10:33:00 John Perkins
   Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/11/09 18:10:00 Daniel Aherne
      Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/11/09 20:01:00 Richard Greenhough
      Chiswick Roundabout - I am the developer!17/11/09 20:17:00 Kim Gottlieb
         Re:Chiswick Roundabout - I am the developer!17/11/09 20:46:00 Dave Elmer
         Re:Chiswick Roundabout - I am the developer!17/11/09 22:09:00 Richard Jennings
   Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/11/09 23:35:00 David Archer
      Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/11/09 09:21:00 Kevin Regan
         Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/11/09 16:29:00 Dave Elmer
            Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/11/09 16:58:00 Viv Griffith
               Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout19/11/09 15:30:00 Philip Walsh
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout19/11/09 16:09:00 Jonathan Bingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout19/11/09 17:26:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 16:38:00 Jonathan Bingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout19/11/09 17:38:00 Jennifer Selig
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 01:20:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 01:25:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 08:08:00 Becky Bell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 09:11:00 Patricia Johnson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 10:33:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 12:21:00 Ann Williams
                                          Good and bad design10/12/09 12:50:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                             Re:Good and bad design10/12/09 14:48:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:Re:Good and bad design10/12/09 15:32:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Good and bad design10/12/09 15:52:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Good and bad design10/12/09 16:14:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good and bad design10/12/09 16:52:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 16:31:00 Susan Kelly
                                              Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 17:25:00 Roger Talbot
                                                Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 17:33:00 David Giles
                                                   Chiswickians Must Look Back To The Past10/12/09 17:55:00 Michael Brown
                                                   Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 17:56:00 Roger Talbot
                                                   Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 18:07:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                      Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 18:36:00 Patricia Johnson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 19:34:00 Michael Brown
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 19:58:00 Thomas Barry
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 19:36:00 Fred Bray
                                                            The crooked house10/12/09 19:55:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                   Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 19:53:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past10/12/09 20:20:00 Ann Williams
                                                      Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past11/12/09 10:39:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Chiswickians Must Stop Looking Back To The Past11/12/09 12:29:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout10/12/09 21:44:00 Becky Bell
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         Re:Office Overkill20/12/09 22:39:00 Jack Hawthorne
            Re:Re:Office Overkill20/12/09 22:49:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout13/12/09 15:44:00 Robert Hole
      Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout13/12/09 16:08:00 Ana Herrera
      Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout14/12/09 11:50:00 Gisele E Le Moaligou
         Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout15/12/09 14:16:00 Philip Slater
            Chiswick Roundabout - will Highways Agency remove it?16/12/09 18:06:00 Kevin Regan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/12/09 10:42:00 Caroline Castle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/12/09 16:11:00 Fred Bray
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout17/12/09 16:43:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/12/09 12:37:00 Philip Walsh
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/12/09 19:30:00 Ann Williams
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Strange Plans for Massive 'Octopus' structure on Chiswick Roundabout18/12/09 19:39:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                              Brainwave . . .  As it's for a triangular piece of land , , , 18/12/09 22:51:00 Fred Bray
                                 Re:Brainwave . . .  As it's for a triangular piece of land , , , 19/12/09 01:48:00 Fred Bray
                                    Re:Re:Brainwave . . .  As it's for a triangular piece of land , , , 19/12/09 12:02:00 Philip Walsh
                                       The Plans have been turned down.18/03/10 18:18:00 David Giles
                                          Re:The Plans have been turned down.18/03/10 18:31:00 Adam Beamish
                                             Re:Re:The Plans have been turned down.23/05/11 17:04:00 Iain Muir
                                                PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick11/11/11 16:51:00 Dave Elmer
                                                   Re:PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick11/11/11 17:25:00 Roger Talbot
                                                      Re:Re:PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick11/11/11 20:27:00 Philip Walsh
                                                         Re:Re:Re:PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick12/11/11 06:46:00 David Giles
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:PLANS PASSED - Octopus Alive and Threatening Chiswick12/11/11 16:56:00 Sam Hearn Cllr

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