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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings
Posted by: David Lesniak
Date/Time: 19/03/19 07:42:00

Thanks, Ruth, for your reply.

Once again you spout evangelical, one-sided rhetoric all about cycling. No surprise there.

And once again you neglect to acknowledge my support of a better, improved plan for cycling on CHR not this ill-conceived cycle superhighway on a high street (a model that doesn't exist anywhere).

As for the pleasant piazza space - couldn't agree with you more. Except with CS9 the bus stop will be just beside it. And to the point other cyclists make on sitting outside next to bus lanes/fumes - who would want that? So think it ALL the way through, Ruth. You've met with TfL engineers so you are fully aware this piazza will ostensibly be killed by the bus stop not to mention the idling traffic when buses back up into the intersection. 

Again, I ask you to sit and discuss this scheme with pedestrians and business owners while listening to what WE/THEY have to say as we have done endless listening to what you have said. With other cycle routes being completed, we are now able to assess their performance and level of success. Sadly, the news isn't always as good as you purport. But that's just fact, not your rhetoric.

Here on the forum all you've done is swing it back to the cycling mantra. Perhaps that is all you are able to do. You strike me as smarter and more capable of that.

As for the real danger to local residents...that comes in many forms and on 2 and 4 (or more) wheels. For the purposes of this thread, we'll leave increased knife crime out of it. Just ask Loraine. Or the woman who was waiting at the cross walk yesterday with a cyclist just next to her. When the light changed, the cyclist took off and crossed this woman's path as she entered the pedestrian crosswalk. She was headed north and he was headed west and he was waiting down east from her. He couldn't be bothered to wait two seconds. So when a cyclist and a pedestrian are waiting at a pedestrian cross walk, who has right of way? Will it endanger the cyclist to wait a second or two? Am I anti-cycling because I think common courtesy in this instance is out the window?

I think the real danger to this community is blind advocacy like yours, if I'm honest. I don't think you have a clue as to what makes a truly healthy, vibrant and sustainable community. I don't think you have a clue as to what forces are at play for local businesses. And given the extreme reduction in footpath width the cycle superhighway scheme proposes, I don't think you give a rat's ass about pedestrians.


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FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 07:48:00 Richard Bryson
   Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 08:00:00 Loraine Pemberton
   Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 08:54:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 09:22:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 09:35:00 Gordon McDonald
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 09:51:00 David Grantley
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 09:57:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:35:00 Richard Bryson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:46:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 09:57:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 10:33:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:30:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:39:00 Matthew Swain
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:26:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 13:59:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:53:00 Richard Bryson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 14:47:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 13:47:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:27:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:35:00 Matthew Swain
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 07:12:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 13:44:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:23:00 Alex Shpinkov
   Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:45:00 Matthew Swain
      Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 11:47:00 Richard Bryson
         Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:05:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:14:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 07:29:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 08:44:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:53:00 Richard Bryson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 14:04:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:15:00 Paul Lund
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 15:07:00 James Mcconnell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 15:55:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 16:08:00 James Mcconnell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 16:24:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 16:18:00 Paul Lund
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 16:42:00 James Mcconnell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 17:00:00 Edward Seaton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 17:05:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 22:47:00 Al Webber
         Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:18:00 Michael Robinson
   Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:37:00 Carl Wynne
      Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 12:42:00 Edward Seaton
         Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 20:26:00 Tony Smart
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 23:15:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 23:28:00 Richard Bryson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD14/03/19 23:52:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 01:11:00 Tony Smart
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 01:51:00 Chris Blackwell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 06:53:00 Richard Bryson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 07:56:00 Matthew Swain
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 08:06:00 Richard Bryson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 08:19:00 Matthew Swain
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 08:41:00 Richard Bryson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 10:06:00 James Mcconnell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 14:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 10:06:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 11:03:00 Richard Bryson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD18/03/19 12:15:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD18/03/19 13:31:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 11:12:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD15/03/19 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 07:21:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 07:31:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 08:46:00 Richard Bryson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 08:59:00 Tony Smart
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 09:54:00 Richard Bryson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 11:03:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 11:08:00 James Mcconnell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 11:16:00 Tony Smart
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD16/03/19 11:38:00 James Mcconnell
                                                Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHR. Is Tony Smart a SPAMBOT ?16/03/19 12:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHR. Is Tony Smart a SPAMBOT ?16/03/19 22:10:00 Tony Smart
                                                      Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHR. Is Tony Smart a SPAMBOT ?17/03/19 10:15:00 James Mcconnell
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHR. Is Tony Smart a SPAMBOT ?17/03/19 10:30:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings16/03/19 11:45:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings16/03/19 12:24:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings16/03/19 21:44:00 Richard Bryson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings16/03/19 22:10:00 Tom Trower
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 07:16:00 David Lesniak
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 09:25:00 Matthew Swain
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 09:40:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 09:52:00 Matthew Swain
                                                                  Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 10:02:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                     Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 11:11:00 Ken Munn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 12:19:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                     Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 14:36:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                        Re:Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 14:57:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 15:32:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: A Cyclists ran into me this morning and didn't stop !18/03/19 15:41:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 12:55:00 David Lesniak
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:16:00 Matthew Swain
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings19/03/19 07:20:00 David Lesniak
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:24:00 Ruth Mayorcas
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:42:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:49:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 17:26:00 Ruth Mayorcas
                                                                        Re: Reply to Ruth18/03/19 17:48:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                           Re:Re: Reply to Ruth. Oops !18/03/19 17:56:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                        Re: Reply to Ruth18/03/19 17:49:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 18:22:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 20:08:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 20:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 20:56:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings19/03/19 07:42:00 David Lesniak
                                                                     Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings19/03/19 10:27:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings20/03/19 09:03:00 Ruth Mayorcas
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings20/03/19 09:42:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings20/03/19 11:52:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings20/03/19 14:09:00 David Lesniak
                                                                        Ruth Mayorcas feedback - where'd it go?26/03/19 06:24:00 David Lesniak
                                                                           Re:Ruth Mayorcas feedback - where'd it go?26/03/19 07:22:00 Steve Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 13:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 07:30:00 Richard Bryson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. 2nd Consultation findings18/03/19 07:33:00 Richard Bryson
                                                         FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas20/03/19 11:48:00 Richard Bryson
                                                            Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas20/03/19 14:19:00 Ian Taplin
                                                               Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas20/03/19 15:04:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas20/03/19 17:43:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas21/03/19 10:50:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas21/03/19 13:43:00 David Lesniak
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas21/03/19 14:49:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas21/03/19 14:51:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas11/04/19 00:38:00 Richard Bryson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas11/04/19 07:45:00 Pip Walsh
                                                                                    Re: reply to Pip Walsh11/04/19 07:58:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                                                       Re:Re: reply to Pip Walsh11/04/19 10:37:00 Richard Bryson
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas11/04/19 13:45:00 David Lesniak
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas11/04/19 13:23:00 Claire Moran
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FOLLY OF CS9 ON CHISWICK HIGH ROAD. Ruth Mayorcas11/04/19 13:38:00 Claire Moran

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