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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St
Posted by: David Lesniak
Date/Time: 18/01/20 15:22:00

"Of course we need successful retail, but concentrating on a mode of transport that only allows on average most two customers at a time (the average shop frontage divided by the parking length of a car) literally cannot deliver on this score"

Tom, you should mention that to Karen Liebreich who thinks shops are "useless."

Otherwise, if you allow cars to park perpendicular to shop fronts you would double the amount of parking. So a simple matter of geometry indeed. Then again you can have council-sponsored parking facilities which they have demonstrated in Brentford. And no, Karen, I do not now nor have I ever supported a 9-storey car park on CHR but your buddies Steve Curran and Guy Lambert thought it was appropriate for Brentford and I'm just asking why haven't they addressed identical issue in Chiswick in some way shape or form. I do support appropriate car parking infrastructure for businesses.

Per your other post "you’ll make congestion, pollution and pedestrian safety worse, and for minimal benefit: a 10% increase in visitors by car means less than a 1% increase in visitors to our high streets" pretty much sums up CS9. It is for minimal benefit for the minimum user as you previously said the LSE report ascertains the majority walk. Be that as it may, even if cycle use ticks upward, it will not definitively yield profit. As you so rightly say, a 10% increase in visitors by (insert vehicle choice here) means less than a 1% increase in visitors to our high streets.

Pertinent, too, is the theory that empty space denotes lack of need. I listened to Iain Cassidy (LBHF councillor for Cycling) defend CS9. He got all huffy saying empty bike lanes doesn't mean they are not needed. The identical thinking applies to parking. Just because a space is empty, doesn't mean it isn't needed eventually. I'm guessing the irony was lost on him. 


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How to save the high street13/01/20 15:36:00 Rima Jones
   Re:How to save the high street13/01/20 17:05:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:How to save the high street13/01/20 17:20:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 15:59:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 16:34:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 17:07:00 Janice Evans
            Less than 10% of us drive to the High St15/01/20 15:58:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 07:32:00 Alex Shpinkov
                  Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 09:15:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 09:36:00 Al Webber
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 09:56:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 10:40:00 Janice Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 13:24:00 Al Webber
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St18/01/20 15:22:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 16:22:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 20:35:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 22:45:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St16/01/20 23:38:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St17/01/20 08:12:00 Alex Shpinkov
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St17/01/20 10:33:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St18/01/20 14:10:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St18/01/20 19:18:00 Tony Smart
                  Re:Re:Less than 10% of us drive to the High St19/01/20 08:52:00 Tom Pike
   Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 18:22:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 22:02:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street14/01/20 22:27:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 10:22:00 Janice Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 10:39:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 10:49:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 10:58:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 11:01:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 11:17:00 Tony Smart
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 11:21:00 Janice Evans
                                 Measuring the Local Economic Impacts of Replacing On-Street Parking With Bike Lanes15/01/20 11:37:00 Hans Lund-Sorensen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 12:22:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 13:39:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 15:53:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 16:23:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 16:28:00 Stuart Kerr
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 16:38:00 Tom Pike
                              Reply15/01/20 18:55:00 Carl Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 16:40:00 Matthew Swain
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 17:07:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 17:48:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 17:57:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street18/01/20 16:06:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street18/01/20 19:21:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 13:00:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 11:33:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 12:03:00 Alex Shpinkov
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 12:04:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 12:37:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street15/01/20 13:41:00 Alex McDevitt
                  Tax15/01/20 19:35:00 Keith Iddon
                  Reply15/01/20 21:10:00 Robert Fish
                     Re:Reply15/01/20 22:50:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Reply18/01/20 15:36:00 David Lesniak
                        Reply19/01/20 15:41:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street16/01/20 10:56:00 Janice Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How to save the high street16/01/20 22:54:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 09:08:00 Stuart Kerr
                     Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 09:34:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 09:55:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 10:21:00 Colin Joseph Jordan
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 13:52:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 11:29:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re: brain surgery..17/01/20 10:09:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..18/01/20 20:08:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re: radical dream19/01/20 08:37:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Re: radical dream19/01/20 10:14:00 Stuart Kerr
                                 Re:Re:Re: radical dream19/01/20 11:19:00 Adrian Irving
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: radical dream19/01/20 11:36:00 Stuart Kerr
                              Re:Re: radical dream20/01/20 12:59:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re: radical dream20/01/20 13:31:00 Adrian Irving
                           Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..19/01/20 14:07:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..19/01/20 15:39:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..20/01/20 12:02:00 David Lesniak
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..21/01/20 02:18:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: brain surgery..21/01/20 11:41:00 David Lesniak
   Re:How to save the high street19/01/20 20:50:00 Bobbie Carnegie
      Re:Re:How to save the high street19/01/20 21:04:00 Janice Evans

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