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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).
Posted by: Paul Morris
Date/Time: 27/11/07 20:30:00

Tom
Why will the noise environment in Grove Park improve with teh ending of mixed mode? The govnt/ BAA plans assume/ hope that planes will get quieter. However, there are no plans from either Airbus or Boeing to build planes that are dramatically quiter than those flying today. True some of the noisier older plans wil go, but the govnt's own recent noise study (which it rubbished because it didnt like the findings) showed that increased in flight frequencies far outway the benefit of older plans going. I can only say that the end of mixed mode will also be the end of my stay in Chiswick, and I know many others who feel the same.

I have yet to see any of the 3rd runway proponents tell me why it is needed. Noone is proposing closing LHR, despite some classic straw man arguments from one or two people. So businesses that want to be near the airport will be happy. However, all economic studies have shown that transport links have to be of a sufficient level to foster economic growth, but no more than that. The point remains that business travellers are in a minority at LHR, and most of the growth in demand is from transit passengers who are of no benefit to the UK economy. Sucking in passengers from the regions will also overload the already creaking motorway network in the region, with negative implications for businesses. I would also point out that in our economy thinks like land and capital are in scarce supply, and the 3rd runway will use these resources for limited return.

I also wouldnt get too carried away with the idea of seeing delays reduce. In any scenario the runway will not be ready until 2020, while passenger numbers will increase to absorb any slack.


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I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:00:00 Gary Watson
   Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:05:00 Sara Nathan
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:14:00 Gary Watson
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:15:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:23:00 Bernadette Paul
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:37:00 Malcolm Peltu
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:46:00 Gary Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:28:00 Ed Yelland
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 08:55:00 Bernadette Paul
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 09:04:00 Gary Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:38:00 Gary Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:47:00 Andy Rooney
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:09:00 Gary Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:02:00 Andy Rooney
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:10:00 Gary Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:22:00 Andy Rooney
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:32:00 Ed Yelland
         Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 14:34:00 Gary Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:13:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:24:00 Gary Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:25:00 Martin Williams
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:29:00 Gary Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:29:00 Gary Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:31:00 Gary Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:35:00 John Mc Cann
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:51:00 Gary Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:46:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 15:54:00 Gary Watson
                        I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:19:00 Verification Required
                           Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 16:25:00 Yeshim Harris
                           Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 07:37:00 Gary Watson
   Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)26/11/07 16:41:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)26/11/07 20:49:00 Paul Morris
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)27/11/07 07:47:00 Gary Watson
         Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)27/11/07 08:26:00 Peter Goodhew
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)27/11/07 08:35:00 Gary Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not)27/11/07 19:03:00 David Fox
   Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.26/11/07 23:58:00 Peter Goodhew
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 07:54:00 Gary Watson
         Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion. (NOT)27/11/07 08:49:00 Yeshim Harris
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion. (NOT)27/11/07 08:57:00 Gary Watson
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 09:00:00 Martin Whaley
         Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 09:12:00 Gary Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 10:23:00 Tina Gallacher
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.27/11/07 10:26:00 Gary Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 10:47:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 11:22:00 Sammy Todd
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 11:25:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 11:47:00 Jason Knights
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 11:50:00 Gary Watson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 13:24:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 16:01:00 Sarah Harty
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 16:11:00 Guy Lambert
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 16:23:00 Sarah Harty
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 16:52:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 18:15:00 Tom Pike
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 16:20:00 Ed Yelland
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 13:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 20:30:00 Paul Morris
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).27/11/07 23:34:00 Tom Pike
                                 Near Kew or Far Kew>28/11/07 07:34:00 Gary Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 10:15:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                    Local Conservatives oppose Heathrow expansion28/11/07 12:06:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Local Conservatives oppose Heathrow expansion28/11/07 12:55:00 Gary Watson
                                    "Westerly preference"28/11/07 13:06:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                       Re:"Westerly preference"28/11/07 13:36:00 Pete Higginson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 13:40:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 13:54:00 Richard Jennings
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 14:35:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 14:43:00 Yeshim Harris
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 14:50:00 Gary Watson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).28/11/07 15:18:00 Martin Whaley
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion (not).29/11/07 07:19:00 Gary Watson
                                                       Benefits of Heathrow Expansion to Current Passengers "negligible" - DfT29/11/07 07:57:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re: Benefits of Heathrow Expansion to Current Passengers "negligible" - DfT29/11/07 08:45:00 Gary Watson
                                                            Re:Re: Benefits of Heathrow Expansion to Current Passengers "negligible" - DfT29/11/07 08:54:00 Tom Pike
                                                               Re:Re:Re: Benefits of Heathrow Expansion to Current Passengers "negligible" - DfT29/11/07 09:02:00 Gary Watson
   Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.29/11/07 10:45:00 Paul Hazeltine
   Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.29/11/07 10:46:00 Paul Hazeltine
      Re:Re:I'm all for Heathrow expansion.29/11/07 11:51:00 Pete Higginson
         I'm all for Heathrow contraction.29/11/07 18:33:00 Martin James Bleach

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