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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country
Posted by: Patrick ONeill
Date/Time: 02/12/10 14:48:00

Emma - your approach of lumping all road users into the same category of people who should take more care ignores who is actually responsible for killing and injuring the vast majority of people on the roads. 

This is car drivers, followed by buses/vans/HGVs followed by motorcycles with cyclists a long, long way behind.

This is simple physics.  If you mess up driving a large lump of metal you are going to do a lot more damage than if you are on a bike.

A marginal improvement in cyclists' behaviour will produce a tiny reduction in casualties because there just aren't than many to start with while a marginal improvement in car driving standards will save hundreds.

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4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:31:00 Andrew Dunham
   Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:45:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:58:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:12:00 Andrew Dunham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:26:00 Anne Meagher
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:52:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 16:12:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 16:18:00 Jennifer Selig
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:00:00 Bobby Newly
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:24:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:36:00 Iain Muir
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:08:00 Iain Muir
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 22:10:00 Lou Greenwood
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:33:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:37:00 Emma Thatcher
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:12:00 Andrew Dunham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:25:00 Bobby Newly
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:29:00 Emma Thatcher
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:39:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 17:18:00 antony obrien
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:25:00 Emma Thatcher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:38:00 antony obrien
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:46:00 Andrew Flinn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 15:08:00 Andrew Dunham
                                          Re: In defence of 4X4s01/12/10 15:23:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re: In defence of 4X4s01/12/10 16:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 15:37:00 Andrew Flinn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 16:33:00 Andrew Dunham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 16:38:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 17:36:00 Andrew Dunham
                                                      :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 18:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 22:16:00 Lou Greenwood
                                                            Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 23:08:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 08:25:00 Colin Jordan
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:07:00 antony obrien
                                                            Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:12:00 Stewart Dean
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:21:00 antony obrien
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:08:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:47:00 Colin Jordan
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:51:00 antony obrien
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:45:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:50:00 antony obrien
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:26:00 antony obrien
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 16:25:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the cou02/12/10 17:28:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the cou02/12/10 17:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:52:00 Andrew Flinn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:58:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 15:02:00 Laurence Truett
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 16:08:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded peo02/12/10 17:35:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:38:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:48:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:27:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:59:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:14:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:23:00 Emma Thatcher
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:48:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:53:00 Emma Thatcher
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:54:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 15:15:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 17:12:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 17:44:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 18:52:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 19:05:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 19:44:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:48:00 Laurence Truett
   For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 15:34:00 Patrick ONeill
      Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 16:03:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 16:22:00 Patrick ONeill
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:41:00 Laurence Truett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 19:33:00 antony obrien
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 20:19:00 Laurence Truett
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:47:00 Andrew Dunham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 18:27:00 Laurence Truett
      Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:32:00 Laurence Truett
         Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:40:00 Patrick ONeill
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:45:00 Laurence Truett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:58:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 18:25:00 Laurence Truett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 21:57:00 Jonathan Bingham
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 22:46:00 Andrew Dunham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?03/12/10 01:34:00 Patrick ONeill
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?03/12/10 03:21:00 Julian Pavey
                     'Whatabouts'...03/12/10 14:58:00 Laurence Truett
                        Re:'Whatabouts'...03/12/10 15:52:00 Richard Greenhough

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