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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of
Posted by: Paul Corcoran
Date/Time: 07/05/19 09:41:00

'The only way to fix air pollution is to reduce the number of car journeys.'

In London buses, HGVs, black cabs and LGVs account for most pollution, the overwhelming proportion if you are considering air borne pollution for particulates. So I think you probably meant to say 'motor vehicle' rather than 'car'.

Even then your statement is questionable - it isn't the number of car journeys that matter but the number of motor vehicles on the road at any given time.

If you increase journey times you need to reduce the number of vehicles enough to ensure that pollution doesn't rise. The reality is that it is very difficult to make categoric statements about what the impact of schemes like this will be. TfL's own data seems to suggest that there won't be much increase in journey times as a direct result of the scheme but as the original poster points out they are making the assumption that drivers will use alternate routes so the number of vehicles isn't going to reduce. This raises the possibility that the scheme will not reduce pollution, just spread it to roads on which more people live.

On driverless cars, I thought that ultimately network management would significantly increase the capacity of inner city roads because they would use the space more efficiently. The bulk of these cars are likely to be Uber or some Uber successors so surge pricing would apply which could be used to manage demand.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of06/05/19 09:25:00 Kevin Howard
   Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of06/05/19 14:56:00 Andrew OSullivan
      Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of06/05/19 16:34:00 Julie Morse
         Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 07:29:00 Paul Corcoran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 09:18:00 Al Webber
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 09:41:00 Paul Corcoran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 11:02:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 12:49:00 Andrew OSullivan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of07/05/19 14:17:00 Al Webber
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of08/05/19 09:54:00 Paul Corcoran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of08/05/19 12:27:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of08/05/19 12:24:00 Steve Taylor
                           Reply08/05/19 16:15:00 Kevin Howard
                              Re:Reply09/05/19 04:21:00 Tony Smart
                                 Reply09/05/19 07:14:00 Kevin Howard
                                    Re:Reply09/05/19 11:30:00 Tony Smart
                                 Re:Re:Reply09/05/19 07:53:00 Al Webber
                                 Re:Re:Reply09/05/19 13:08:00 David Lesniak
                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply09/05/19 23:38:00 Tony Smart
                              Re:Reply09/05/19 13:12:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of08/05/19 13:06:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 07:15:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 15:13:00 Pip Walsh
      Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 15:24:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 15:34:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 17:17:00 Janice Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 11:59:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of10/05/19 18:23:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 09:31:00 Andrew OSullivan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 11:17:00 Pip Walsh
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 13:26:00 Anita Blake
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 13:38:00 Pip Walsh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 15:50:00 Colin Jordan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 15:54:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 16:13:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Major New Local TfL Project You May Be Unaware Of11/05/19 16:15:00 Steve Taylor

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