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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick
Posted by: Sam Hearn Cllr
Date/Time: 07/06/11 10:40:00

George, I am sure that your views are equally valid to mine. After all you are paying for this service.

But I would ask what has actually changed under the new arrangements? For the vaste majority of those submitting applications the decision was quite correctly already made under delegated powers by a planning officer.

In the case of those applications that came before Area Planning Committees the vaste majority were also decided in the way that the planning officer had directed.

In practice Councillors became unwilling arbitrators in disputes between neighbours. The planning issues were often very clear and in practice we could only "sugar the pill" for the unfortunate neighbour by recommendng minor amendments or deferring a decision. 

It may also be of interest that in those small number of cases where councillors chose to ignore the advice of planning officers applicants often either appealed or resubmitted a slightly amended applications that was sunsequently approved.

In the case of major planning issues such as the CPZ or Kew Bridge the applications would still come before the Area Monitoring Committee for comment. The difference is that now I will free to take sides if I choose and to campaign actively "for" or "against" i.e. behave like a proper politician.

You believe that "planning" has given us a very ugly heritage and it is hard to disagree with you. What I do not understand is how you believe an Area Planning Committee would make any significant difference.

I note that I am the only one to have alluded to the possibility of corruption. This has been alleged in parts of Hounslow and in my view the more local the decision making process the more likely it is to happen. Phil Andrew's idea of making planning decisions at a Ward level would sadly make this almost an inevitablity.

As Councillors we had to make decisions based on planning law and laid down council policy. Any 'maverick' decisions stood a good chance of being reversed on appeal. The issue of basements being dug under existing houses in Chiswick comes to mind. Did we really serve residents well by blocking some of these applications only to lose most on appeal?


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Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 13:51:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 14:32:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
      Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 15:31:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 16:12:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 16:15:00 Monica Devlin
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 16:28:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 17:04:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 17:06:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 17:41:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 18:02:00 George Knox
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 19:30:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Front page article re. area planning committees03/06/11 20:19:00 Elizabeth Ross
      Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees04/06/11 02:02:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees04/06/11 08:40:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees04/06/11 12:22:00 Phil Andrews
               Front page article re. area planning committees04/06/11 14:02:00 George Knox
            Area Planning committees terminated04/06/11 18:50:00 John Todd
               Re:Area Planning committees terminated05/06/11 01:14:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Area Planning committees terminated06/06/11 10:31:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Area Planning committees terminated06/06/11 11:02:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 15:24:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 15:53:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 16:03:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Front page article re. area planning committees05/06/11 15:41:00 Sarah Bradley
      Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees05/06/11 16:27:00 Elizabeth Ross
      Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees05/06/11 18:27:00 George Knox
         Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees06/06/11 12:04:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees06/06/11 12:27:00 Elizabeth Ross
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees06/06/11 13:07:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees06/06/11 14:23:00 Elizabeth Ross
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees06/06/11 12:55:00 Phil Andrews
               Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick06/06/11 18:26:00 David Giles
                  Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick06/06/11 20:23:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick06/06/11 23:50:00 George Knox
                        Re:Re:Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick07/06/11 10:40:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick07/06/11 11:02:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Abolition of Chiswick Area Planning Committee is bad news for Chiswick07/06/11 17:18:00 David Giles
      Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 15:37:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 17:08:00 David Giles
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees09/06/11 21:41:00 Adam Beamish
               :Front page article re. area planning committees10/06/11 10:40:00 David McLoughlin
                  Re::Front page article re. area planning committees10/06/11 11:08:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re::Front page article re. area planning committees10/06/11 12:11:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re::Front page article re. area planning committees12/06/11 10:38:00 David McLoughlin
                        Re:Re:Re::Front page article re. area planning committees12/06/11 11:57:00 Guy Lambert
                           Front page article re. area planning committees12/06/11 14:45:00 George Knox
                              Re:Front page article re. area planning committees12/06/11 15:06:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Front page article re. area planning committees12/06/11 15:37:00 George Knox
                                 Facts12/06/11 16:32:00 John Todd
                                    Re:Facts12/06/11 18:17:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                       Re:Re:Facts12/06/11 19:32:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Facts12/06/11 21:16:00 Adam Beamish
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Facts12/06/11 22:33:00 Phil Andrews
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Facts13/06/11 12:22:00 Adam Beamish
                                                   Opinions13/06/11 12:49:00 Richard Greenhough

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