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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice
Posted by: Pete Higginson
Date/Time: 30/06/08 16:37:00

Reminds me of day one in Statistics in college, many years ago, where the lecturer pointed out that there was a significant correlation between arrest for drunkeness in Sauchiehall street in Glasgow and attendance at the local Kirk. He pointed out that there were three options.

One that people were remorseful for their overindulgence and sought forgiveness,i.e A causes B(unlikely but possible)

Two that the sermons were so boring that no-one could face them without a few pints of heavy inside them, and they overdid it. i.e. B causes A.( also unlikely but possible)

Third, they are not directly linked, other than through some third factor, in this case they both tend to happen on Sunday morning, which leads to the correlation.

In short you have to be very careful indeed not to confuse correlation  between two events and a direct cause and effect relationship.

I don't really believe it, but in the absence of facts I could just as well argue that the milder climate we have been having has increased food growth and caused the boom in population which has naturally increased the total amount of energy we are consuming.

Furthermore I am getting fed up of being told the majority of scientists believe it, therefore it must be true. If you had asked a hundred people in the eighteen hundreds then the majority would have believed in the virgin birth, the holy trinity and resurrection but that would not have proven them true either.

Yes there is some evidence there, yes it is a likely scenario, but until it is PROVEN rather than ASSUMED I will keep an open mind. During the period 1990-2000 for example, when energy consumption was increasing at a very high rate there was virtually no increase at all in average surface temperature.

Would it be wise to take some precautions anyway to be on the safe side?

Yes I thimk it probably would, but I resent being considered inferior because I don't blindly believe without facts to support such a belief.


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No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 14:53:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 15:16:00 Fraser Pearce
      Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 15:29:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 15:42:00 John Mc Cann
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 16:18:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 15:36:00 Fraser Pearce
      Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 16:15:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 15:56:00 Bill Green
      Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 17:41:00 Fraser Pearce
         Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 17:47:00 Martin Hime
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 17:48:00 Michelle Weaver
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 18:39:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 18:51:00 Viv Griffith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 19:23:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 19:42:00 Viv Griffith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 20:45:00 Stewart Dean
                           Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 21:40:00 Mick OBrien
                              Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 07:43:00 Stewart Dean
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 11:34:00 Robert Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 18:51:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:No ice at the North Pole.27/06/08 21:43:00 Christine Hooper
      Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 15:30:00 Henry Beckett
         Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 20:43:00 Fraser Pearce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 21:57:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 22:03:00 Martin Hime
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 22:59:00 Henry Beckett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.28/06/08 23:11:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 08:59:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 08:47:00 Stewart Dean
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 08:31:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 09:16:00 Viv Griffith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 09:46:00 Colin Jordan
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 11:57:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No ice at the North Pole.29/06/08 17:55:00 Lynette Duff
   Tiger in Dessert?29/06/08 09:50:00 Margaret Wilcocks
      Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 13:26:00 Henry Beckett
         Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 18:23:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 19:42:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 20:18:00 Henry Beckett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 20:49:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 21:00:00 Henry Beckett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 21:41:00 Martin Hime
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 21:57:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 21:55:00 Stewart Dean
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 22:15:00 Henry Beckett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 23:32:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice29/06/08 23:32:00 Stewart Dean
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice30/06/08 14:39:00 Fraser Pearce
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice30/06/08 15:07:00 Stewart Dean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice30/06/08 15:24:00 John Marshall
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice30/06/08 16:26:00 Fraser Pearce
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 00:22:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice30/06/08 16:37:00 Pete Higginson
                                    Re::cuts no ice30/06/08 16:54:00 Fred Bray
                                       Re:Re::cuts no ice30/06/08 16:56:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re::cuts no ice30/06/08 17:43:00 Stewart Dean
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 04:22:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 08:13:00 John Marshall
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 09:10:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 10:45:00 Viv Griffith
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 11:33:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 11:11:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 11:35:00 Stewart Dean
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 12:09:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Situation dire for North Pole residents01/07/08 13:10:00 Fred Bray
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 13:43:00 Stewart Dean
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 13:59:00 Cameron Laing
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 15:09:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 16:13:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 16:29:00 John Marshall
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 17:24:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 18:28:00 Felicity Baron
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 18:46:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 19:08:00 Felicity Baron
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cuts no ice01/07/08 19:53:00 Tom Pike
   Vegetarian01/07/08 18:17:00 Tamara Kozak
      Re:Vegetarian01/07/08 18:20:00 Henry Beckett
         Re:Re:Vegetarian01/07/08 19:12:00 Fraser Pearce
            Re:Re:Re:Vegetarian01/07/08 20:33:00 Tom Pike
               Relion and science02/07/08 10:42:00 Malcolm Peltu

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