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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?
Posted by: Malcolm Peltu
Date/Time: 09/05/08 10:41:00

Thanks Peter. I am pleased to hear the proposals will be open to public consultation and look forward to learning more about them and the extent to which any final decisions have been taken and what aspects could be modified if they improve the service to users.

I hope you and other councillors take as a lesson from this thread that this Forum can be useful way of communicating with your constituents. 'Consultation' should include providing timely information and responses in places that engage with the public, including seeking advice on what criteria should be included in negotiations that might have to happen behind closed doors. This topic has been raised before without response from Councillors and your posts don't seem to contain anything that couldn't have been said before, including at the time this process began. 

From Richard Jennings: 'are you seriously suggesting that the choice of a contractor is a matter on which residents should be directly consulted?  Of course deals are being done behind closed doors.  You can't carry out complex commercial negotiations any other way.'

As indicated above, I believe public consultation involves much more than contractor negotiation process and it is possible to have both public consultation and formal tendering processes that protect commercial confidentiality, etc. For example, I understand it is now a requirement to consult users of an NHS service before significant changes in the provision are made, although there are subsequently formal tendering processes for the choice of contractor. Peter indicates that such consultation isn't included in the EU tendering process for the library, although I'm not sure that this formally excluded consultation.

Whether or not the consultation on the previous library proposal scuppered a desirable option with the Barley Mow is not a reason to bypass consultation  Democracy sometimes comes up with the wrong answers - but so does behind locked doors negotiations.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?02/05/08 14:18:00 David McLoughlin
   Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?02/05/08 20:23:00 Iain Muir
      Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?05/05/08 21:24:00 Sarah Dodd
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?07/05/08 11:45:00 Malcolm Peltu
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?07/05/08 13:08:00 David Greene
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?07/05/08 14:38:00 Malcolm Peltu
   Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 09:34:00 Alison Howard
   Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 09:51:00 Account suspended
      Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 11:44:00 Malcolm Peltu
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 13:39:00 Peter Thompson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 14:32:00 Malcolm Peltu
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 15:12:00 David Darlow
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 15:28:00 Simon Everton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 17:01:00 Malcolm Peltu
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 18:30:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 19:49:00 David Darlow
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 20:10:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 21:01:00 Malcolm Peltu
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 22:18:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Who Are Our Local Councillors ? (Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?)09/05/08 15:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 00:53:00 Barney Miller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?08/05/08 23:57:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 00:18:00 Pamela Mayorcas
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 09:10:00 Peter Thompson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 10:23:00 David Darlow
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 11:47:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 10:41:00 Malcolm Peltu
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 12:00:00 Paul Lynch
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 12:25:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?09/05/08 14:25:00 David Giles
                           Chiswick Library to be rebuilt, or sold off for private use!09/05/08 15:22:00 Pamela Mayorcas
                              Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt, or sold off for private use!09/05/08 15:32:00 Malcolm Peltu
                              Re:Chiswick Library 09/05/08 21:45:00 Richard Jennings
                                 Re:Re:Chiswick Library 11/05/08 16:06:00 David McLoughlin
                                    Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 11/05/08 23:24:00 Iain Muir
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 19/05/08 14:41:00 David McLoughlin
                                    Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 07/06/08 23:27:00 Pamela Mayorcas
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 08/06/08 09:52:00 Iain Muir
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 08/06/08 12:03:00 Paul Fisher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library 09/06/08 03:22:00 Iain Muir
                                                :Chiswick Library 09/06/08 06:12:00 John Todd
                                                   Re::Chiswick Library 09/06/08 09:33:00 Ken Munn
                                                   Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 10:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 11:44:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 11:53:00 Paul Fisher
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 12:19:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 12:33:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 14:04:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 14:22:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed09/06/08 17:42:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed11/06/08 14:33:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed12/06/08 13:16:00 Gordon Smith
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed12/06/08 13:22:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed12/06/08 13:36:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed12/06/08 13:43:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed13/06/08 11:26:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed13/06/08 11:48:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed13/06/08 13:01:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Library - new statement needed13/06/08 13:07:00 Paul Fisher
   Leisure and Cultural contract13/06/08 13:51:00 John Todd
      Re:Leisure and Cultural contract13/06/08 15:06:00 Guy Lambert
         Leisure and Cultural contract13/06/08 15:15:00 John Todd
            Re:Leisure and Cultural contract13/06/08 15:45:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Leisure and Cultural contract13/06/08 16:21:00 Hugh Telford
   Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?13/06/08 16:52:00 Carol Lofthouse
      Re:Re:Chiswick Library to be rebuilt?13/06/08 18:15:00 Malcolm Peltu
         LBH new contract13/06/08 22:54:00 John Todd
         LBH new contract13/06/08 22:54:00 John Todd
         LBH new contract13/06/08 23:02:00 John Todd

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