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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?
Posted by: Al Webber
Date/Time: 30/05/18 15:15:00

I used to cycle into central London at my previous workplace.  It was a good 10 minutes quicker than the Tube.  Given the cost of the Tube, the combined cost and time savings would see a lot more people cycling if they weren't put off by the supposed dangers.

Those dangers are massively overstated by Evening Standard clickbait articles.  Cycling is actually pretty safe.  If you actually Google it, per mile travelled, cycling fatalities are actually lower than walking fatalities.  Obviously, most cycling journeys are longer, so you get a different figure if you do it per journey, but that stat dies illustrate that cycling isn't nearly as dangerous as a lot of people perceive it to be.

I'm not a huge fan of the CS9 scheme in it's current form, and I think it would be better on the A4 if you build a "superhighway".  It would be better value for money to fix the key junctions along the route, and fix problem areas like the way the cycle lane stops and the road narrows on the zebra crossings in Chiswick. It would deliver most of the benefit for a fraction of the cost.  I've said that in more detail, with reasons, on the previous threads on CS9.

However, building the cycle lane is better than doing nothing if that's what TFL are willing to fund, and it won't "destroy the High Road"

You are right that driverless cars will change things.  They will drive far better than some of drivers on the roads  - who overtake when there isn't enough room, cut you up afterwards, or who are on their mobile phones and not paying attention.  That will actually make people feel a lot safer cycling, and will probably lead to an increase in the number of people cycling.


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The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 08:15:00 Andy Pease
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 08:44:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:03:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:36:00 Ruth Mayorcas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ? And now you want...30/05/18 16:45:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:38:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:04:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:03:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:26:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:39:00 Ruth Mayorcas
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 14:08:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Kew Bridge31/05/18 14:52:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:50:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:00:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:29:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:16:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:27:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:34:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 20:31:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:48:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:53:00 Matthew Swain
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:52:00 Al Webber
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:19:00 Alex Shpinkov
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:30:00 Jayne Thorburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:55:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:29:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:23:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 09:42:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:20:00 David McLoughlin
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:30:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:32:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:33:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:37:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:45:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:52:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:34:00 Loraine Pemberton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:32:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:12:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:27:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:24:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 21:10:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:45:00 Jayne Thorburn
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:21:00 Matthew Swain
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 07:14:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:09:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:25:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:47:00 Ken Munn
                                       Re:Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 18:14:00 Claire Moran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 22:24:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:A really radical bike route01/06/18 14:35:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:13:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:37:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:56:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:59:00 Al Webber
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:27:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:51:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:01:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:11:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:24:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:35:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:15:00 Al Webber
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:42:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:37:00 Ken Munn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:53:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:59:00 Claire Moran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:41:00 Ken Munn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:56:00 Claire Moran
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:58:00 Bernard Allen
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:08:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:32:00 Bernard Allen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:24:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:15:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 21:52:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:01:00 Tony Smart
                        Re: Maybe it's the lycra that should be banned?31/05/18 07:36:00 Philippa Bond
                           Poor cycling infrastructure puts off all but the macho.31/05/18 09:42:00 Will Watson
                              Re:Poor cycling infrastructure puts off all but the macho.31/05/18 10:19:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Two fingered salute31/05/18 13:49:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 13:51:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 20:38:00 Bernard Allen
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?01/06/18 08:05:00 Ken Munn

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