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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?
Posted by: Charlotte Kasner
Date/Time: 30/05/18 12:50:00

"Mike Brown admitted the scheme has caused huge congestion in the capital and issued an apology for the way it was brought in". Evening Standard citation, not likely to be published if incorrect.

Taking road space away from drivers means that traffic will still continue to use the route but will be subject to much more congestion. Congestion means that there is no through-flow of traffic and that engines will idle and traffic will not be moving at a speed which optimises fuel use. Thus, there will be more pollution.

TfL seems to have quietly dropped is aim of getting 10% of people cycling by the mid 2020s and is now saying that it "...aims to increase the number of journeys taken by bike in the capital from 2% to 5% by 2026".

In spite of disproportionate amounts of investment and marketing, cycling has only increased it share by 1% in more than eighteen years. There is nothing to suggest therefore that the next 8 years will be significantly different.

TfL (and others) have focused on just one aspect of behaviour and suggested that fear of road traffic is the only significant reason for not cycling. This is not borne out by their own studies or any others. Whilst TfL have denigrated opposition to cycle superhighways by designated it as a coming from a "vocal minority", they ignore the fact that, buy their own admission, 70% of "frequent" cyclists (those that only have to cycle once a week to be counted) are men as are 59% of "infrequent" cyclists (those who cycle at least once a year). I'm not stats expert, but ths seems a very bizarre designation of frequency. However, the main point is that this small number of mostly men are surely the "vocal minority", not least because they have been allowed a vastly disproprtionate and privileged input into the "consultation" process.

Equally, London's pollution is caused by a variety of other factors in addition to road vehicles, so removing even 3% of vehicles from the road, assuming that everyone in them decided to cycle instead, would make no difference whatsoever.


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The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 08:15:00 Andy Pease
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 08:44:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:03:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:36:00 Ruth Mayorcas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ? And now you want...30/05/18 16:45:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:38:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 10:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:04:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:03:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:26:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:39:00 Ruth Mayorcas
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 14:08:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Kew Bridge31/05/18 14:52:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:50:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:00:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:29:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:16:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:27:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:34:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 20:31:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:48:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:53:00 Matthew Swain
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:52:00 Al Webber
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:19:00 Alex Shpinkov
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:30:00 Jayne Thorburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:55:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:29:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:23:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 09:42:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:20:00 David McLoughlin
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:30:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:32:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:33:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:37:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:45:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 11:52:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:34:00 Loraine Pemberton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:32:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:12:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:27:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 19:24:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 21:10:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:45:00 Jayne Thorburn
                              Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:21:00 Matthew Swain
                                 Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 07:14:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:09:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:25:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 17:47:00 Ken Munn
                                       Re:Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 18:14:00 Claire Moran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:A really radical bike route31/05/18 22:24:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:A really radical bike route01/06/18 14:35:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:13:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:37:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 12:56:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 13:59:00 Al Webber
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:27:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 14:51:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:01:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:11:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:24:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:35:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:15:00 Al Webber
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:42:00 Peter Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:23:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:37:00 Ken Munn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:53:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:59:00 Claire Moran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:41:00 Ken Munn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:56:00 Claire Moran
   Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 15:58:00 Bernard Allen
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:08:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 16:32:00 Bernard Allen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 17:24:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 18:15:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 21:52:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?30/05/18 22:01:00 Tony Smart
                        Re: Maybe it's the lycra that should be banned?31/05/18 07:36:00 Philippa Bond
                           Poor cycling infrastructure puts off all but the macho.31/05/18 09:42:00 Will Watson
                              Re:Poor cycling infrastructure puts off all but the macho.31/05/18 10:19:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Two fingered salute31/05/18 13:49:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 13:51:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?31/05/18 20:38:00 Bernard Allen
      Re:Re:The end of CS9 ?01/06/18 08:05:00 Ken Munn

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