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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......
Posted by: Thomas Barry
Date/Time: 12/11/12 22:42:00

"One day there is going to be an accident at Heathrow"

The Staines Trident crash killed 118 people.  The annual death toll on London's roads, which had been falling sharply, rose to 159 in 2011.

Since Richard, at last count, wants to spend £50bn of public money on an airport in the estuary*, perhaps he'd like to estimate the extra road deaths that would be caused by the consequent savage cuts in transport investment elsewhere and offset that against the risks from an industry that (like railways) for all practical purposes a fatality rate of zero?

There are many valid reasons to oppose a third runway - the noise, pollution, environmental destruction, likely medium to long term prospects for the economics of short term aviation and general bullcrap from the supporters, but the sky falling on our heads isn't one that should concern us until after we've found out why the decade long falling trend in road casualties reversed itself a couple of years go.

* Usual working out: £10bn for buying Heathrow from BAA, £40bn on rail and road links, funding for which even the most enthusiastic estuary airport backers are now admitting will fall on the taxpayer.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 13:42:00 Claire Moran
   Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 17:42:00 Iris Hill
   Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 17:44:00 Iris Hill
      Re:Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 18:01:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 18:17:00 David Giles
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 22:15:00 John Hickman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Spectator Debate On Third Runway 26 November 09/11/12 23:08:00 Thomas Barry
                   Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......10/11/12 16:50:00 David Giles
                     Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......10/11/12 18:16:00 Roger Talbot
                        Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......10/11/12 18:20:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......10/11/12 18:35:00 Roger Talbot
                              Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......11/11/12 00:08:00 Claire Moran
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......11/11/12 10:07:00 Roger Talbot
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......11/11/12 10:20:00 Tim Henderson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......11/11/12 18:48:00 David Giles
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 10:09:00 Roger Talbot
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 10:25:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 10:32:00 Roger Talbot
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 17:04:00 Claire Moran
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 17:19:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 17:28:00 Claire Moran
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 21:55:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 17:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 22:42:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......12/11/12 23:06:00 Claire Moran
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 09:44:00 Paul Green
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 09:54:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 10:05:00 Paul Green
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 10:24:00 Will Watson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 11:08:00 Roger Talbot
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 11:06:00 Tim Henderson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 11:14:00 Claire Moran
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 14:30:00 Paul Green
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Debates On Third Runway  are fine but......13/11/12 14:26:00 Dave Robertson
                                              Heathrow is simply in the wrong place14/11/12 20:05:00 David Giles
                                                Giles is confusing me14/11/12 21:43:00 Thomas Barry
                                                Re: Heathrow is simply in the wrong place14/11/12 22:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re: Heathrow is simply in the wrong place14/11/12 23:52:00 Dave Robertson
                                                      Re:Re:Re: Heathrow is simply in the wrong place15/11/12 08:22:00 David Giles
                                                      Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 09:53:00 Thomas Barry
                                                         Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 09:59:00 Claire Moran
                                                            Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 10:13:00 Paul Green
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 10:25:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 10:53:00 Thomas Barry
                                                         Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 10:45:00 Will Watson
                                                            Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 11:13:00 Tim Henderson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 15:27:00 David Giles
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 15:49:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Evening Standard at it again15/11/12 17:13:00 Dave Robertson
                                                                        Heathrow's interests are not the same as the UK's15/11/12 19:49:00 David Giles

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