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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works
Posted by: Bill George
Date/Time: 16/06/22 12:26:00

The scheme being put through central Chiswick differs in many key respects to the scheme that was consulted upon, with narrower carriageways and new pinch puts that reduce the capacity through central Chiswick. Some may like the fact that stretches of pavement have been kept, but its definitely not the scheme that was consulted on and we see traffic displacement as a result.

Traffic modelling is indeed a difficult art and generally fails to account for the real time algorithms behind most mapping apps.

Much of west Chiswick has been gridlocked every evening for the last few weeks. Although certain road works are the catalyst, TFL's long standing desire to prioritise the A4 traffic at peak times is an important factor. Its ironic that in doing so traffic floods parts of W4 and means a key stretch of CS9 is blocked in both directions by traffic. More generally it highlights that most key junctions and roads are operating at capacity. A more salient question for traffic planners might be when are there not road works on key routes surrounding W4 given most of the infrastructure is creaking and at our beyond its shelf life.

I wonder how much more cycle infrastructure our key roads can take while functioning at even a basic level. Buses are aready being intentionally sacrficed for cycle lanes as on the westward stretch by Stamford Brook bus garage. Longer term an expanded congestion charge seems inevitable to manage traffic flow and keep roads moving. Cycling has a role but IMO its hugely exaggerated by its proponents. A larger stick to get people of out of cars is needed than just creating congestion, and history (and rest of Europe) shows us that extensive, accessible and attractively priced public transport is key to provide the alternative. Unfortunately the current govnt prefer to treat TFL and its Labour mayor and mainly Labour councils as a political football. So we price people off tubes and buses, cut services, then wonder why the roads are solid. 

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Cycle Lane works12/06/22 10:49:00 Nicky McKenna
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      Reply12/06/22 13:52:00 Rob Reynolds
         Re:Reply12/06/22 15:48:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Reply Best Western12/06/22 18:03:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Reply Best Western12/06/22 20:10:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 06:03:00 Maggie Dodge
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 07:39:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 08:53:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 09:10:00 Bill George
                              Bill George13/06/22 09:27:00 Francis Sheehan
                                 Re:Bill George13/06/22 14:38:00 Mark Evans
                                    Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 05:50:00 Francis Sheehan
                                       Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 09:26:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 10:50:00 Francis Sheehan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 11:47:00 Mark Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 10:02:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 11:14:00 David Lesniak
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 15:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George16/06/22 08:49:00 Francis Sheehan
   Re:Cycle Lane works14/06/22 08:00:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 11:14:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 13:48:00 Nora Watkins
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 19:36:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 09:17:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 10:11:00 Kieran Fox
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 11:33:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 11:58:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 12:26:00 Bill George
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:08:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:30:00 Bill George
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:09:00 David Lesniak
               Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 14:31:00 Francis Sheehan
                  Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 14:57:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:01:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:15:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:50:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 17:38:00 Mark Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 10:53:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 17:35:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 05:10:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 06:21:00 Francis Sheehan
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 13:50:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 16:58:00 Francis Sheehan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 17:30:00 Mark Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 00:36:00 Michael Preece
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 05:12:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 10:02:00 Bill George
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 10:32:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 11:13:00 Bill George
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 14:24:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 14:32:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 17:52:00 Ed Saper
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 18:29:00 David Lesniak
                        Re: Bill George05/07/22 13:18:00 Richard Cathcart
                           Re:Re: Bill George05/07/22 14:17:00 Bill George
                              Re:Re:Re: Bill George (2)05/07/22 16:27:00 Richard Cathcart
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 10:19:00 Maggie Dodge
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 13:59:00 Anne England
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 16:04:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 17:19:00 Ed Saper
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 14:00:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Euston 21/06/22 09:30:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Euston 21/06/22 13:10:00 David Lesniak
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