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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George
Posted by: Francis Sheehan
Date/Time: 14/06/22 10:50:00

Hi Mark

Google Streetview has the latest situation I think. Their car was here last in August 2021. https://goo.gl/maps/cerjaiR76pJzhEMo9 is the link.

Don't get me wrong, when going TO Brentford or Kew the current layout is brilliant, especially with the Stile Hall Gardens solution. But when you're coming FROM Brentford or Kew the layout is, well, vastly inferior.

"Your continental colleagues may be puzzled by these designs but I'm sure experienced and knowledgeable people have worked on them and if compromises have been made they are necessary. "

I'm not disputing that whoever designed CS9 has got a wealth of knowledge and expertise, and I'm sure many hours of thought have gone into it. But at the same time we have an infrastructure that gets pedestrians and cyclists awfully close together (Hammersmith end of King street, where indeed they resorted to put some barriers a while back), has a very weird 90 degree turn from one side of the road to the other (again Hammersmith), doesn't allow left-hand turns into Turnham Green Terrace when travelling eastbound, is very tricky to reach from North of CHR (as you say) and is substantially subpar when coming from Brentford or Kew if compared with the other direction.

Sure, it's better than what was there before, i.e. nothing, but considering that we have so much wealth of knowledge to draw from and we had quite a large budget... it feels like a wasted opportunity.

It is a bit sad to think that, these days, I'd rather cycle on Goldhawk road even though its cycle lane is nothing but a painted line with (always the same) cars parked on it as it's faster and more straightforward than CS9 for my needs.

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Cycle Lane works12/06/22 10:49:00 Nicky McKenna
   Re:Cycle Lane works12/06/22 11:44:00 Mandy Waters
      Re:Re:Cycle Lane works12/06/22 12:32:00 Vanessa Smith
      Reply12/06/22 13:52:00 Rob Reynolds
         Re:Reply12/06/22 15:48:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Reply Best Western12/06/22 18:03:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Reply Best Western12/06/22 20:10:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 06:03:00 Maggie Dodge
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 07:39:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 08:53:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reinstatement of left hand turn13/06/22 09:10:00 Bill George
                              Bill George13/06/22 09:27:00 Francis Sheehan
                                 Re:Bill George13/06/22 14:38:00 Mark Evans
                                    Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 05:50:00 Francis Sheehan
                                       Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 09:26:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 10:50:00 Francis Sheehan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George14/06/22 11:47:00 Mark Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 10:02:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 11:14:00 David Lesniak
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George15/06/22 15:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bill George16/06/22 08:49:00 Francis Sheehan
   Re:Cycle Lane works14/06/22 08:00:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 11:14:00 Jayne Thorburn
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 13:48:00 Nora Watkins
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works15/06/22 19:36:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 09:17:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 10:11:00 Kieran Fox
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 11:33:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 11:58:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 12:26:00 Bill George
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:08:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:30:00 Bill George
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 13:09:00 David Lesniak
               Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 14:31:00 Francis Sheehan
                  Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 14:57:00 Bill George
                     Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:01:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:15:00 Bill George
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 16:50:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 17:38:00 Mark Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 10:53:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?16/06/22 17:35:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 05:10:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 06:21:00 Francis Sheehan
                        Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 13:50:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Traffic or bike lane?17/06/22 16:58:00 Francis Sheehan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works16/06/22 17:30:00 Mark Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 00:36:00 Michael Preece
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 05:12:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 10:02:00 Bill George
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 10:32:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 11:13:00 Bill George
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 14:24:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 14:32:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 17:52:00 Ed Saper
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Lane works17/06/22 18:29:00 David Lesniak
                        Re: Bill George05/07/22 13:18:00 Richard Cathcart
                           Re:Re: Bill George05/07/22 14:17:00 Bill George
                              Re:Re:Re: Bill George (2)05/07/22 16:27:00 Richard Cathcart
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 10:19:00 Maggie Dodge
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 13:59:00 Anne England
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 16:04:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 17:19:00 Ed Saper
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A4 alternative 17/06/22 14:00:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Euston 21/06/22 09:30:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Euston 21/06/22 13:10:00 David Lesniak
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