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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene
Posted by: David Lesniak
Date/Time: 01/03/21 07:49:00

"S25 of the GRA states that gender dysphoria is a disorder, a mental disorder"

And that right there is the problem, Una. This appears to be something you cling to. I don't for one minute want to undermine the challenges you faced nor denigrate how you have coped. But let me remind you homosexuality was for years the world over considered to be a mental disorder as well. Let me assure you the only thing that made me think for a split second that I was mentally unfit as a gay kid was what society put upon me. I was lucky in that respect. Pure luck that I learned early on I don't give a shit what people think of me. What I saw and didn't see and how I was portrayed to be publicly without consent or anyone knowing how or what I felt. Once I put aside the notion that I was somehow mentally ill, I figured a way to get out of a hole I was put in. A lot of what you say sounds to me you are keeping a group in a hole of your making. There are myriad sources to refute yours. You know this. Clearly you are an intelligent woman.

As for my personal experience with trans people it goes quite along way back. Anyone remember Renee Richards? My father went to medical school with her. So when Renee's story emerged it was discussed openly in our house. And she was my ophthalmologist in NYC. My partner has actually helped someone through their transition in previous a chapter of his life. And even now doing what we do, over the years many trans people have come through our doors and to us deliberately for support. It is one of the greatest honors to know they feel safe enough here to do so. Dare I say gay people have more opportunity to cross paths with trans folks more frequently than straight people. I applaud your in-depth research, Una, but it does seem incomplete based upon your sole experience and then research only. My humble apologies for that presumption. I'm glad you have a support network and I hope it sheds many lights not just one on your effort to find resolution. But it does not seem based upon a collection of life stories as told by those who lived it. That's where the brave comes in. It's a recurring theme. And it jumps out at you after about the second story. Trans people don't simply flick a switch one day to the next. They undergo a rigorous course of counselling at each and every step if their path is transitioning.

To stay on point a bit more, it is this integration of all walks of life where I think the most value lies. I'd like to think with all the equality battles that came before the path to a more open life for anyone has been paved. And that the need for a segregated safe space for one group is out-dated. Especially in an open democratic urban center. Again, if someone comes out, why go back in?


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Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 11:31:00 Una-Jane Winfield
   Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 11:49:00 Julian Pavey
      Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 12:15:00 Simon Pedley
         Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 12:27:00 Una-Jane Winfield
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 12:57:00 bobby osborne
   Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 15:25:00 David Lesniak
      Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 19:50:00 Una-Jane Winfield
         Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 20:00:00 Stewart Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 20:28:00 Richard Cathcart
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 20:49:00 Una-Jane Winfield
         Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 07:49:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene13/03/21 12:40:00 Una-Jane Winfield
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene13/03/21 15:15:00 Stewart Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene13/03/21 15:25:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene14/03/21 10:32:00 Una-Jane Winfield
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene14/03/21 14:49:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene14/03/21 22:42:00 Una-Jane Winfield
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene15/03/21 07:37:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene15/03/21 10:35:00 Una-Jane Winfield
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene15/03/21 17:28:00 David Lesniak
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene15/03/21 18:17:00 Una-Jane Winfield
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene15/03/21 18:28:00 Una-Jane Winfield
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene16/03/21 07:15:00 David Lesniak
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene16/03/21 15:31:00 Una-Jane Winfield
   Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 21:11:00 Katja Urban
      Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene28/02/21 21:21:00 Una-Jane Winfield
      Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 11:07:00 Simon Pedley
         Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 14:18:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 15:20:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 17:08:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Call Made To Revive Hounslow Borough's 'Vibrant' LGBT+ Scene01/03/21 19:44:00 Simon Pedley
                  Re: Simon Pedley01/03/21 22:11:00 Richard Cathcart
                     Re:Re: Simon Pedley02/03/21 07:35:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley02/03/21 10:26:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley05/03/21 16:29:00 Martin Weaver
                        Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley05/03/21 18:14:00 Jennifer Selig
                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley05/03/21 19:20:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley05/03/21 21:35:00 Janice Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley06/03/21 13:07:00 Stewart Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley13/03/21 16:07:00 Alastair Banton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon Pedley15/03/21 15:20:00 Ed Saper

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