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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:The Germans and the French
Posted by: David Giles
Date/Time: 15/12/11 13:58:00

I have no hesitation in saying that David Cameron was right to veto the Merkozy proposals.

The Merkozy proposals will take many months to implement (if they can ever be implemented with the consent of national parliaments and in some cases referenda) and by that time events, events, dear boy,  will have moved on.

Like previous Merkozy/EU nitiatives they are long term, ineffectual political measures which will simply not deal with the immediate economic, fiscal and financial crisis in the Eurozone.

The markets will decide the fate of the euro and the Eurozone - not politicians like Merkel (a chemist brought up in Communist East German) or Sarkozy(who started life as a lawyer but who has been pretty well a full-time politician all his adult life).

As well as the Eurozone's Financial Deficits, I am very concerned about the Eurozone's increasing Democratic Deficit.

This was blatantly illustrated a few weeks ago when the Finance Committee of the German Budesbank were given copies of the recent Irish Budget to review before it was submitted to the Irish Parliament.

If David Cameron had agreed to the Merkozy proposals he would have agreed to unelected EU and ECB bureaucrats and members of foreign parliaments we do not elect having control over vital matters  such as the UK Government's Taxation, Fiscal and Budgetary policies.

That indeed would have been a Bridge Too Far and David Cameron was right not to cross over it.


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Well done Dave!09/12/11 15:09:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 15:54:00 Roger Talbot
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:05:00 David Roberts
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:08:00 Michael Daley
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:27:00 Richard Greenhough
            Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:39:00 George Knox
               Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:48:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!10/12/11 00:42:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:06:00 Roger Talbot
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:27:00 George Knox
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:51:00 John Connelly
                           George Lansbury. Leader of the Labour Party said09/12/11 19:17:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 11:24:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 14:00:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 15:36:00 Roger Talbot
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 16:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!13/12/11 16:00:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!13/12/11 16:04:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!10/12/11 12:07:00 Maureen Barrymore
   Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 18:28:00 Iain Muir
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 21:45:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:20:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:42:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:59:00 David Roberts
                  There is no split on Europe10/12/11 00:14:00 David Giles
                     Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 10:59:00 Christian Schroeder
                        Re:Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 11:33:00 George Knox
                        Re:Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 12:27:00 Adrian Irving
                           The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron11/12/11 09:02:00 David Giles
                              Re:The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron11/12/11 12:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron12/12/11 16:15:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:There is no split on Europe12/12/11 16:04:00 Vanessa Smith
   Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 14:35:00 Kathleen Healy
      "Fog in the Channel - continent cut off!"11/12/11 16:13:00 Birna Helgadottir
         Re:"Fog in the Channel - continent cut off!"11/12/11 22:56:00 David Giles
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 22:51:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 23:08:00 Iain Muir
   Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 16:15:00 Chris Dakers
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 18:07:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 19:45:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 22:32:00 Iain Muir
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 23:05:00 David Giles
                  The Germans and the French12/12/11 09:03:00 David Giles
                     Re:The Germans and the French12/12/11 14:03:00 Colin Jordan
                        Why are there so many French people living here ?12/12/11 16:06:00 David Giles
                           Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?12/12/11 18:24:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?13/12/11 09:00:00 David Giles
                                 Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?13/12/11 15:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?14/12/11 12:44:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?14/12/11 16:46:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 20:20:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 20:22:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 21:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 22:14:00 David Giles
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 22:25:00 Phil Andrews
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 16:16:00 Stephen Thornton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 21:12:00 Phil Andrews
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 21:54:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 22:28:00 C Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself14/12/11 13:24:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                          This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:15:00 David Giles
                                             Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:33:00 Will Watson
                                                Re:Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:59:00 Ann Williams
                                                   Till we have built Jerusalem, In England's green & pleasant Land14/12/11 16:48:00 George Knox
                                                   Re:Re:Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 17:47:00 David Giles
                        Re:Re:The Germans and the French14/12/11 19:38:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:The Germans and the French15/12/11 11:33:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The Germans and the French15/12/11 13:58:00 David Giles

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