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Topic: Re:The Germans and the French
Posted by: Colin Jordan
Date/Time: 12/12/11 14:03:00

'"Only 19 per cent think he was wrong to do so."
and time will tell if those 19% were right or wrong.'

I think this is one of the most important elements in this matter, Steve. David Cameron's critics portray the rest of Europe as some vast, united monolith moving steadily towards a sunlit future of accord and prosperity.  Nothing could be further from the truth, of course. The Eurozone is in a shambles, and if it starts to fall apart, the UK may well be seen as the only safe haven within a chaotic EU. The results of Mr. Cameron's decision will not become apparent for some time yet, and to that extent he was taking a gamble. I'm not sure what the alternative was, but Labour would have criticized Cameron whatever he did, because that is their default position, and they have the luxury of not having to explain what they would have done. Nick Clegg, as usual, swings in the political wind - at the weekend he agreed, but now, after rumblings from his backbenchers, he disagrees. I think Cameron's position took some courage, and I hope it will pay off in the future, but for all their bluster, his political opponents have no more idea of how it will turn out than the rest of us do.


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Well done Dave!09/12/11 15:09:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 15:54:00 Roger Talbot
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:05:00 David Roberts
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:08:00 Michael Daley
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:27:00 Richard Greenhough
            Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:39:00 George Knox
               Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 16:48:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!10/12/11 00:42:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:06:00 Roger Talbot
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:27:00 George Knox
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 17:51:00 John Connelly
                           George Lansbury. Leader of the Labour Party said09/12/11 19:17:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 11:24:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 14:00:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 15:36:00 Roger Talbot
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!12/12/11 16:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!13/12/11 16:00:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!13/12/11 16:04:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!10/12/11 12:07:00 Maureen Barrymore
   Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 18:28:00 Iain Muir
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 21:45:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:20:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:42:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!09/12/11 23:59:00 David Roberts
                  There is no split on Europe10/12/11 00:14:00 David Giles
                     Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 10:59:00 Christian Schroeder
                        Re:Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 11:33:00 George Knox
                        Re:Re:There is no split on Europe10/12/11 12:27:00 Adrian Irving
                           The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron11/12/11 09:02:00 David Giles
                              Re:The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron11/12/11 12:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:The British people overwhelmingly support David Cameron12/12/11 16:15:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:There is no split on Europe12/12/11 16:04:00 Vanessa Smith
   Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 14:35:00 Kathleen Healy
      "Fog in the Channel - continent cut off!"11/12/11 16:13:00 Birna Helgadottir
         Re:"Fog in the Channel - continent cut off!"11/12/11 22:56:00 David Giles
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 22:51:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 23:08:00 Iain Muir
   Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 16:15:00 Chris Dakers
      Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 18:07:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 19:45:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 22:32:00 Iain Muir
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well done Dave!11/12/11 23:05:00 David Giles
                  The Germans and the French12/12/11 09:03:00 David Giles
                     Re:The Germans and the French12/12/11 14:03:00 Colin Jordan
                        Why are there so many French people living here ?12/12/11 16:06:00 David Giles
                           Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?12/12/11 18:24:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?13/12/11 09:00:00 David Giles
                                 Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?13/12/11 15:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?14/12/11 12:44:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are there so many French people living here ?14/12/11 16:46:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 20:20:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 20:22:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 21:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 22:14:00 David Giles
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself12/12/11 22:25:00 Phil Andrews
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 16:16:00 Stephen Thornton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 21:12:00 Phil Andrews
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 21:54:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself13/12/11 22:28:00 C Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:History repeating itself14/12/11 13:24:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                          This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:15:00 David Giles
                                             Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:33:00 Will Watson
                                                Re:Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 14:59:00 Ann Williams
                                                   Till we have built Jerusalem, In England's green & pleasant Land14/12/11 16:48:00 George Knox
                                                   Re:Re:Re:This is not a case of History repeating itself14/12/11 17:47:00 David Giles
                        Re:Re:The Germans and the French14/12/11 19:38:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:The Germans and the French15/12/11 11:33:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The Germans and the French15/12/11 13:58:00 David Giles

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