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Topic: Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession
Posted by: Claudia Jachtmann
Date/Time: 25/05/12 15:30:00

'ii) avoid long term damage to our economy's capacity to generate wealth'

i am pretty sure, generating 'wealth' is not what it used to be
the 'trickle down effect' is imho a bit out of date
when you consider we are in a global economy,
with outsourcing, manufacturing, customer services and any other part of the process being done by anyone in the world

and the company is HQ'd anywhere where corp tax is amenable (and that sometimes can be a tiny office or even a po box)

and then we have tax havens, tax exiles, 'my wife owns this',
anybody and their dog incl mayors and senior servants paying themselves via companies rather then paying higher rate tax,
tax evasion for humans and for dogs (Rosie, was it ?)
and a roaring trade in tax avoidance
and you can spend your money anywhere in the world, import almost anything you like from anywhere if you got the spondulics
and what about PFI's burdens around our necks
and the NHS privatisation bonanza (i heard that 40 of our Lords in the House of Lords have financial interest in the gold rush as NHS is being privatised)

and what is a british company these days (apart from the branding ?)

'generate wealth' yes, for the top 1%
and the gap of the very very wealthy and the poor and the rest if us is widening and widening

sorry for the rant but i think 'generating wealth' and 'trickle down' are very outdated economic or ideological concepts which worked in a fairly closed national/island type system but not in a fully global competitive system which is fully backed by anytime anywhere technology

one day, when i have the time, i am goign to so some 'follow-the-money' research and find out where the money goes that our titans of industry make and which the companies are who are actively benefitting this country, and maybe it is not those who have a 'British brand'
and for me, that information is going to be one part of (not soley of course)my decision making process of where i spend my money


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
It's official: back in recession25/04/12 09:45:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 11:32:00 Claudia Jachtmann
      Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 12:12:00 Tim Outteridge
         Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 12:13:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 14:03:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 14:31:00 Tim Outteridge
         Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 14:24:00 Edward Przepiora
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 14:28:00 Tim Outteridge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/04/12 15:04:00 Roger Talbot
            It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 15:30:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 15:33:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 16:02:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 16:13:00 Edward Przepiora
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 16:18:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 17:45:00 Birna Helgadottir
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 17:58:00 Keith Iddon
                                 We can't spend our way out of a recession25/04/12 18:35:00 David Giles
                                    Re:We can't spend our way out of a recession25/04/12 21:30:00 Thomas Barry
                                       Re:Re:We can't spend our way out of a recession25/04/12 21:46:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 13:32:00 Pete Mayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 19:51:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 18:26:00 Jonathan Bingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 18:45:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 20:10:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter28/05/12 00:43:00 Georgina Flint
                        Economics lesson for Edward26/04/12 18:52:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 20:27:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 20:35:00 Tim Outteridge
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 20:38:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 23:52:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter25/04/12 23:46:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 00:47:00 Edward Przepiora
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 01:11:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 07:51:00 Birna Helgadottir
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 12:35:00 John Smith
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 14:13:00 Pete Mayes
                                       It may not even be a fall of 0.2 % in GDP26/04/12 14:46:00 David Giles
                                          Giles grasps at straws26/04/12 15:30:00 Thomas Barry
                                             Re:Giles grasps at straws26/04/12 15:49:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                Re:Re:Giles grasps at straws26/04/12 15:54:00 Thomas Barry
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Giles grasps at straws26/04/12 16:06:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                          It was actually -0.3%24/05/12 09:27:00 Thomas Barry
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's more than just one quarter26/04/12 14:48:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                    Spending your way out of a recession...it worked for Roosevelt, didn't it?26/04/12 14:43:00 David Giles
                                       It may not be a double dip recession after all say leading economists26/04/12 17:38:00 David Giles
                                          So what?26/04/12 18:03:00 Thomas Barry
                                             Re:So what?26/04/12 18:20:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                                Re:Re:So what?26/04/12 18:43:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:So what?26/04/12 22:10:00 Guy Lambert
                                                History lesson - Ireland/Spain/Argentina. Skip if facts worry you.27/04/12 11:35:00 Thomas Barry
                                                   Income inequality and the 'small state'24/05/12 10:22:00 David McLoughlin
   Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 10:47:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 11:23:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 11:35:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 11:56:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 13:13:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 13:16:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 13:48:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 11:56:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 14:41:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 15:19:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 18:10:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 18:10:00 David McLoughlin
   Re:It's official: back in recession24/05/12 17:58:00 David Roberts
      Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/05/12 14:39:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
         Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/05/12 14:55:00 David Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/05/12 15:30:00 Claudia Jachtmann
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession25/05/12 15:59:00 Susan Kelly
               The Great Crash. 192927/05/12 20:44:00 Michael Sterne
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession27/05/12 22:28:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession28/05/12 06:35:00 William Beausire
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's official: back in recession28/05/12 06:40:00 Susan Kelly
                     Plus28/05/12 09:48:00 Susan Kelly

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