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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road
Posted by: Adam Beamish
Date/Time: 23/07/14 13:45:00

Marc,

Sorry but I don't find your post remotely helpful or reasonable, this thread has actually been fairly well balanced, including my own contributions as both a cyclist and as a driver, criticising both other cyclists and drivers and openly acknowledging that I'm not whiter than white myself and have received penalty points once for speeding (and on one other occasion I avoided penalty points by going on a driver improvement course).

I think it's plain silly to try to present the actions of some drivers as some kind of "justification" for some cyclists behaving the way they do, and vice versa.

If I posted on here everytime I witnessed bad driving by a driver or bad cycling by a cyclist the number of posts would  be higher for cyclists than for drivers, but nevertheless it would be far higher for both than it should be. 

If I had to start a post every time I feel 'threatened' or 'in danger' due to other road users as either a driver, cyclist or pedestrian then there wouldn't be many posts (although I'd actually say I feel more threatened by poor driving when I'm driving than when I'm cycling). 

In some way this brings me back to a point I raised on another recent thread when I said that one of the biggest problems I think is the emphasis on segregation between cyclists and car drivers, because often when cyclists used to being segregated from traffic have to cycle on the road they immediately feel vulnerable because of their own lack of familiarity/confidence at cycling on roads with other traffic, so they perceive danger/threats which don't really exist.

And I write these posts as someone who's been cycling for longer than he's been driving (21 years driving, 25 years cycling in both country and city), including several years when I used to clock 200+ miles a week on the bike for training purposes (which sadly I don't have the time or energy to do now !).




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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:05:00 Helle Kaiser-Nielsen
   Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:07:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:10:00 Michael Brown
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:13:00 Helle Kaiser-Nielsen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:25:00 Michael Brown
               Re:The Bean Conspiracy23/07/14 00:03:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:14:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:19:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:24:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 18:28:00 Apple Leiper
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:15:00 Andy Pease
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:18:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:19:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:41:00 Andy Pease
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 21:03:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:35:00 Pete Mayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 19:49:00 Alan McBride
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 20:21:00 Adam Beamish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 20:40:00 Andy Pease
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 22:33:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 22:34:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road22/07/14 22:46:00 Andy Pease
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 00:14:00 Richard Cathcart
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 05:15:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 07:54:00 Kate Beard
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 08:31:00 Susan Kelly
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 09:12:00 Adam Beamish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 09:18:00 Richard Jennings
                                 Re:Cyclists on One-Way Streets23/07/14 09:27:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 12:51:00 Andy Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 13:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 13:57:00 Will Watson
   Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 08:51:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 10:05:00 Kim Rugg
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 11:43:00 Roxy Brown
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 12:20:00 Marc Fez
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 12:28:00 Bob Guyett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 12:32:00 Marc Fez
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 13:45:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road24/07/14 12:33:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 15:10:00 Bob Guyett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 15:43:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road24/07/14 10:27:00 Marc Fez
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road24/07/14 12:22:00 Adam Beamish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 19:22:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 13:41:00 William Luckman
      Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 14:01:00 David Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 16:13:00 Ros Harrison
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road23/07/14 19:41:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road24/07/14 13:15:00 Ros Harrison
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclist on Thames Road24/07/14 14:55:00 Adam Beamish
                     RRe:Cyclist  at Osterley Park04/08/14 14:02:00 Steve Taylor

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